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If someone had asked him: "Could you compare a 1932 Ford Eight with 221 Cu. In., and a 1932 Pierce-Arrow Eight of 366 Cu. In.?", I would imagine he may have had a similar expression. Makes me wonder what point in the session he was at, and the topic.

Hello K. Lilienthal, Long lost car found! I always thought that was an especially nice-looking Six-61 with the three colors and wire wheels. Your name sounds familiar. Otto Lilienthal was one of the Fathers Of Flight, of course. Please tell us about your Peerless and where you live. Victory Cars sells a lot to European customers; for instance, a Swiss fellow bought a 1929 Six-61 from them. ----Jeff Brown

Thanks, John. More later: need to go to work. It is one of 3 continuation models of 1929 Peerlesses into 1930. About half of the 6-61s(Possibly 4,000), many hundreds of 6-81s, and maybe 74 8-125s were made after September 30th, 1929 -- the cut-off for 1929-titled Peerless cars. This is a 1930 Six-81, 3rd from the top in the 1929 price and features spectrum of: 8-125 _ _ _ _114 Inline 8 _ _ _$2,195-$2,395 6-91 _ _ _ _ _ 70 I-6 _ _ _ _ _ $1,895-$1,995 6-81 _ _ _ _ _ 66 I-6 _ _ _ _ _ $1,540-$1,595 6-61 _ _ _ _ _ 62 h.p. I-6 _ _ $1,195-$1,395 All Peerlesses, but 4 distinct models, engine and prices. This one would have had a 248 Cu. In. Continental six of 66 HP. Price new $1,595, 4-wheel hydraulic brakes, 7-main-bearing crankshaft. 1930 was supposed to be an all-straight-eight year, but production of them started a little late...combined with strong demand for the 3 sixes and one straight-eight in the 1929 lineup.

Nice car!

Thanks for the tip about the 1929 Peerless for sale, Mal. How are things in your neck of the woods? It was -1 F. here this morning --- probably 32 Centigrade there!

483. In Pioneers of the U.S. Automobile Industry, by Michael J. Kollins, it is claimed that Peerless, in its last year of selling cars, was scheduled to have a booth at the 1932 New York Auto Show. In addition: They may have had pilot models of their 1932 line on exhibiton. The application listed their top 5 officers as: James Bohannon, President George A. Ellis, Vice President R. E. Wilcox, Treasurer. 4. S. T. Creighton, Secretary 5. E. C. Sudhoff, Director of Purchasing I did find a piece of Peerless sales literature stamped "1932 N.Y. Auto Show" for sale on ebay. The owner of a 1930 Peerless Custom Eight, Matt Lynch, bought it. According to the January 31st, 1932 Chicago Sunday Tribune - the 1932 Chicago Auto Show had Peerless cars there: (By then, the company had sold their spare parts inventory and their office furniture, and it had been 11 weeks since the last car had come out of the factory - but they still had the buildings and a few hundred cars at their remaining dealers. I've seen some sale flyers for these leftover cars, and the prices were great.) .

482. I read about a big lawsuit between the Elfay Cab Corp. and Peerless regarding one party ordering 1,500 chassis' and the other delivering 2.

At the end of World War Two, my father lived here for two years. He said it was the most beautiful place he had ever seen. Things were different from Kansas in the Dirty Thirties, where he grew up. The where is the Bavarian Alps. A BMW 328 perhaps?

...1926-style Zoom meeting someplace dusty. The plate looks foreign, the background a frontier town in the western U.S.

There is a 1925 Brooks at the Canadian Automotive Museum in Ontario.

A.J., Did this rakish-looking bad boy Castagna sedan ever get built? If so, did it survive the period when it was trendy to chop it up into an open car?

A 1928 Peerless Six-91 Five-Passenger Sedan The owner told me he drove it from Massachusetts down to New Jersey or Maryland for an antique car show of some kind, and parked in visitor parking, since he had no plans to enter the Peerless. Soon he was summoned on the sound system and asked to report to the judging area, because the organizers thought it was too nice to be in the visitor lot. He was asked to move it to a prime area as a featured exhibition car. Maybe he got an award for Best Twenties Car To Crash The Party!

...from a sales brochure for the 1928 Peerless Six-91 Seven Passenger Sedan

Here's a nice shot of one of two PEERLESS Victoria Landaus still around. This is either the Doris Duke one(1910) or the one in the Henry Ford Collection(1911). Brewster Body, 4-cylinder, Model 29, cost $6,250 new:

FINLAND 1926

Most likely a 1912 Peerless 38-Six or 48-Six. Quite the presentable car, if cost be damned.

Fann-tastic and rare photograph, 30DodgePanel! 99 years after Lewis & Clark crossed the Divide, Fred Vogler and 3 or 4 others drove over the same pass. It was July, 1904 in a new 1904 Peerless Model 8, 4-cylinder, 24-HP car. It was 75 miles and took 7 hours. The company printed a special sales brochure highlighting the trip.

With this one you could swan into the visitor's parking lot at almost any antique car event and they'd hustle you onto the showfield to display it as an exhibition, even if it wasn't pre-registered!

Vern: Is this a Model "T"? Skeeter: It might be. If it's black, has a 20 HP four-cylinder and costs 300 bucks. Vern: Wut? Uh, it's got dual exhaust, a 332 Cu. In. V-8 and costs 3 or 4 thousand dollars. Skeeter: You know what, Vern? It's a 1923 Peerless Model "66" Touring Phaeton...the 8th year Peerless built that 80 HP engine. You were REAL close.

Get Mo Betta Quick, Steve!

The first picture was taken my my Grandfather. On the car are my Father, Bernard, my Aunt Geneva; and standing is my Grandmother, Lorena. Mentioned earlier in this CCCA-Elcar Thread was a trip from Hutchinson, KS to Mesa Verde, CO{675 miles} and back in the Elcar. The kids rode in the rumble seat the whole way, but had a little tent-like thing going back from the cabriolet top to shield them from (most of) the rain and sun. I'm sure it was a bit breezy. Camping out on the odyssey, they used a lean-to tent that came out from the side of the car just big enough for four to sleep in.

Mike West ... Thank you for your interest in Elcars. I've enclosed a picture of my Grandfather's 1926 Elcar in the Indiana museum (Turquoise and Blue), plus a 2012 photo of it with the CCCA Museum in the background. His estate's cars didn't go to the grandkids: everything was sold in 5 auctions, but I could bid on anything with a 50% family discount. I didn't have 1/2 of the sale price at the time, or I would have bid. Some guy bought it, then it went to the county museum, then to the place in IN. ALL THE SAME CAR: ....About 1930...Kansas...during the 7 decades our family owned it ...........about 1995...Indiana ...........2012...Michigan...Gilmore Car Museum event

Glenn Brown died, his cars were auctioned by a small-time local firm in 1990 or 1991, the '26 Elcar went for about $5,000. I was there. The car changed hands and wound up at the Elcar Museum in IN. It got a second repaint (to silver & black). Was displayed at a meet at the Gilmore Car Museum 10 years ago

I can't tell if it's a 60-Six or 48-Six. Wonderful photo. My guess is that it's a 1913 48-Six, based on some pictures showing the hood projecting forward of the front axle on 60-Sixes. Alex Cauthen could tell you in a Dallas Minute.

There was a 1927 Peerless Six-60 that sold at an auction in the UK on 5/26/20. I've been following it for 16 years; it's a grey and maroon Sedan which has changed hands a bit, and someone had done a lot of work on the frame and the wood base for the body. Tony Howard, Graham Beckford and the wedding limousine business Occasion Cars were previous owners. Engine was apart. This photo shows some excellent progress on the lower woodwork: Another picture shows some of the rest, not counting the remaining parts.