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1932-'34 are my very favorite, I think Packard reached their zenith of grace and statement with those great cars. After that I like 1956 models, especially seinor models with pushbuttons! Honorable mention: early twin six cars 6th and 7th serice cars 1940-41 senior cars 41-2 Clippers 51-'54 open cars

In that vintage Mopar you wouldn't dare try that two years later, at least in Michigan or other iron-moth state.

This is a weekly occurance at 1580 East Grand Boulevard, the place is abandoned despite the Michigan Supreme Court having decided to give title back to the owner. No police presence (which is highly arbitrary in Detroit, when present) the place is a haven for scrappers, who like to make a nice pile of wire on the floor, douse it with gasoline and burn the insulation off, the cause of many of these fires. The DFD is dreading an all-out fire, many floors in the plant have tounge and groove flooring that soaked up oils and solvents during the 50 years Packard was in the building. I am glad I organized and led the tour that was part of the 2006 PAC convention that went past the plant. I said then that it would be the last time a PAC convention could see the plant and it turns out I was right. With the doorways gone, the weekly fires it's just a matter of time before someone finds the cash to demolish the plant.

Well, for an early 80s Imperial (built on an Aspen/Volare platform) they are considered desirable, especially if you like Frank (I'm a huge frank-o-phile). They came with a special center console tape case filled with Frank cassettes. They have not had their big "ah-hah" moment where the market wakes up and realizes that they were a low production, special car and that they might be worth more than they are currently going for, so buy now. <span style="font-style: italic">"It's Frank's world, we just live in it"</span> -- Dean Martin, 1960 <span style="font-style: italic">"you gotta love livin' baby, 'cause dyings' a pain in the a__"-</span>Frank, 1965

Will it matter in 15 years?

St. Louis musician and Pierce Arrow collector Stan Kann passed away yesterday. He is remembered for his many appearances on "the tonight show" with Johnny Carson in the 70s and 80s, trying to demonstrate his antique vacuum cleaner collection and gagets, somehow things always went wrong, and that's where the fun began. He also appeared on "the Gary Shandling show" Stann was a fine theatre organist, played at the St. Louis Fox theatre for over 50 years and toured the nation and the world playing concerts. He was very fond of Pierce Arrow cars, owned two early thirties models. I'll miss Stan, he was a joy to be with and could discuss many topics with ease. Stan was a member of the St. Louis CCCA

Lincoln, not sure of the year.

Note to all posters/car fans: The Company that produced the car is question is the Willys-Overland company of Toledo Ohio. It is named for John North Willys (pronounced ("Willis"), who rescued the floundering Overland Company and added his name. It is not, and is never to be refereed to as "Willy's", that means that something belongs to someone named Willy.

If you are going to attempt to bring a golf cart you need to procure a golf cart pass or permit from the AACA. Hershey region keeps a very tight contol over golf carts in order to keep the show from being over run with them like the Auburn swap meet, and that is a very good thing. It may be more advisable to get one of those personal transport electric buggies for him, I believe the rules on those are easier, and the affect on the show is less.

St. Louis musician and Pierce Arrow collector Stan Kann passed away yesterday. He is remembered for his many appearances on "the tonight show" with Johnny Carson in the 70s and 80s, trying to demonstrate his antique vacuum cleaner collection and gagets, somehow things always went wrong, and that's where the fun began. He also appeared on "the Gary Shandling show" Stann was a fine theatre organist, played at the St. Louis Fox theatre for over 50 years and toured the nation and the world playing concerts. He was very fond of Pierce Arrow cars, owned two early thirties models. I'll miss Stan, he was a joy to be with and could discuss many topice with ease.

I might add that as an antique car guy you may own cars similar to those you are judging, or be very aware of the particular ins and outs, authencity points of a particular make/model. When you judge, don't thow the book at a car that happens to be one that you are extremely knowledgable aobut and then go judge another right beside it that you know little about (comparatively) other than to say "they didn't use blue crimp-on connectors in 1947" and so on. Be fair, treat every car in the class the same, including those where you know a lot. A Cadillac guy could tear apart a Cadillac he is judging and let several things get past on a Packard or Lincoln, not being "the expert". I don't consider that fair. If there is something blatently wrong with the Cadillac, call it what it is, but don't go micro-balistic on the car when you can't for every other car in that class. treat them all the same.

Simplyconnected--I used to go to that building to do some work for Ed McNamara. Too bad city hall didn't survive like that building!

Have reason to believe it was taken in Detroit.

I ask you.................

Yes, it is a great photo. It is available online (how I got it) From the Wayne State University virtual Motor City website, and they can furnish a copy for publication, after you pay the going rate (very reasonable) and that copy does not have their copyright info at the bottom. That was taken in Grand Circus Park, Detroit. The Stutz was parked on W. Adams street, Woodward ave. is the cross street.

The 331 hemi would probably be more expensive to rebuild than the two GM engines, they are a little more complicated. Trivia for you: look at the displacement, Bore, stroke, compression ratio, length of block, length of each cylinder bank, dimension from crank center to TDC, cylinder bore spacing (and many more dimensions) of the Chrysler 331 Hemi and then compare to the (1949-up) Cadillac 331 OHV-V8. Chrysler engineers "borrowed" a Cadillac hearse from a Highland Park (MI) funeral home and dissected the engine. the First Chrysler Hemi is, with the exception of the cylinder head, is a copy of the Cadillac OHV-V8, the first modern (bore larger than stroke) V8. Chrysler got more power out of that displacement after the first year of the Hemi than the Caddy, but the Hemi head was where they could truly depart from the "borrowed" design and set it apart as their own. Great engines, these are now in demand, the 392 cu. in. engines in the later models are the most sought after. You could put the hemi in the Olds and have something unique, just don't put a small block Chevy in it!

Thanks!

I'm trying to ID the car in the foreground (closest to the camera), I'm pretty sure it's a Cadillac. What say you?

it's a Rolls-Canhardly

It's also considered polite if you resize your photos so they don't stretch out the screen width to the point where reading a line of text involves moving the bottom cursor back and forth. I use a free download program from www.Ifranview.com and I find that a width of about 700 pixels is good, makes a nicely sized image, not too big.

I used to wear one of those Tyvek Zoot-suits when sandblasting like that.

If the vinyl is in very good condition, no tears, the embossed patttern is intact you can paint the top with a special flexible paint, the same product is used for wrapped steering wheels and seats/door skins. As Rusty said, your local auto paint jobber can set you up with the right products.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 57wagon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have to say, that was one UGLY Duesenberg! The doors and body just look so heavy compared to the ones that survive today. Still, this is a sad fate for such a wonderfully engineered car. Looked to be in fine shape when it met the end! </div></div> No, you haven't seen enough Duesenbergs.

That is why a major company like PPG makes a product just for this purpose--<span style="font-weight: bold">DX330</span>. It is chemically engineered to do the job and not have problems like evaporation rates. It is not cheap, but as restorer 32 said on the other thread, redoing everything isn't saving any money either. These products are designed for professionals who do not have time or money to waste, and want to hit it right the first time.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Restorer32</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yep, you are right, 70% or better. I was wrong. Still not sure I would risk using it under expensive sealers and primers. DX330 isn't that expensive. Personally I wouldn't risk $300 in sealer and primer to save $10, not to mention the labor to redo everything. Learned that lesson the hard way long ago. Use the minimun # of products reccommended by the paint supplier from the bare metal out. Don't mix brands, find a brand you like and use their products exclusively. Recoat times are critical as is shelf life of products, especially hardeners and catalysts.</div></div> Very, very good advice, this. Pick one brand and family of product in that brand and use that only.