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Albert, did you have training or prior experience in body work? I was thinking it might be a good idea to take some classes in body work and painting this summer. Then I would have a better idea of how it is done and possible the contacts to save money on equipment and a site to paint.

I have seen some of the Great American Dream Machines. And I love the Predictor...kind of ironic, don't you think? <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> It was so out there as to be desirable! I will check out the Franklin mint and some of the other companies you all suggested. I love building models so it might be interesting to see what is available. I found an original 1957 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham a couple of years ago. Painted it like the instructions indicated...now I think I will disassemble it and redo it in a black and white interior scheme.

Thank you for all of your help and suggestions. I will pass this on to my friend. Then it is up to him! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

That was pretty funny! And no doubt true...I loved the Terms of Sale. P.T. Barnum is alive and well cause someone actually BOUGHT it for money...real greenbacks. Sheesh. Got to love it though! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Uh sorry folks, but that is one FUGLY automobile. Sigh. I guess we will never see a handsome, senior Packard again. Are there any models of 40s or 50s Packards available?

Wonderful! You do such good work. Did you do this yourself or have it done? That is a marvelous car and must be a joy to own! Congratulations!!

I could not agree with you more. Over the past year I have considered selling my '47 or the '77 Eldorado to finance one thing or another. Then I thought, what the heck...just enjoy them! At some point I will have the '47 repainted in Antionette Blue. I can do this through some connections I have made for a smaller price than I had thought possible but in the long run I realise it has more to do with what I like than anything else. Right now I am planning on repainting and detailing the engine compartment on the '47, and redoing the wood grain on the interior for my own pleasure this spring when it warms up. I will do the very best I can to make it original again for my own pleasure. Because that is what it is about. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I will own many more cars before I die but I will keep the '47. So this thread is really more about how you detail and fix your car (in deference to Peter Hartmann) for your own pleasure, than how well it will do on any field of contest. Of course, if that is what gives you pleasure then by all means go for it!!! That is the fun of it all. I want to thank you all for your input on this thread because it not only helped me to see this truth, but also how to go about attaining it through my own devices. Thank you all very much.

Peter, I would just like to thank you for sharing with all of us your knowledge and experience in the matter of castings and metalurgy in general. Such knowledge is gained through long hard work, experience and dedication, something no one should take lightly. I just wanted you to know how much I appreciate your willingness to share this with us all. It is your kind of spirit that makes the Forum such an invaluable tool, and wonder place to go for friendship and comaraderie (sp?). <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Howard ~ I'll bet that was quite a scene, you and your friends tooling around in sub-zero temps in a classic Buick! Marvelous. Did the Buick have heat or was that a later development? I know virtually nothing about the Brass Era cars so any information you can impart, this whipper snapper would be eternally grateful. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Wayne, Got your newsletter and you deserve all the awards and kudos coming your way, my friend! An excellent paper indeed. Thank you so much for sharing it with me.

Beautiful car, Mr. Binger. Thank you for posting it. I get odd looks every now and then from driving my '47 up into the mountains, but most of the time its all thumbs up and smiles. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> That is the real joy in this hobby for me at any rate.

Oh I agree, Glenn. I have never understood the prejudice against the sedan. Coupes are fun, I like their personal qualities, but the sedan is a wonderful vehicle. I was particularly happy to have found a sedan and now, in looking (semi-seriously) I am looking for a 1956 Cadillac Series 60 Special because they are so marvelously big and comfortable, not to mention prestigous. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> And fortunately there are quite a few sedans still out there for restoration!

Hi Mike, yes you can. There are several sources to be found out on the net for such things. There are also companies that still apply Dynoc. For example, I found that the Collector Car Restoration, Inc. had a video to teach these skills. You can find them at www.carrestoration.com. To start, try and find as many good, clear and color pictures of wood grain treatments for the 1940 Cadillac Series 75. Books, like Schneider's Cadillacs of the Forties, and magazines, like the Classic Automobile are a good start. Also if you use a news reader, there is a good, clean site : alt.binaries.pictures.autos where you can get or request photos from the collectors there to illustraite your car. I have had some good luck there. You could also contact the Cadillac LaSalle Clubs technical advisors listed in the directory. They have a wealth of information available to them. Or ask on the AACA Technical or CCCA Technical forum. Everyone there will do all they can to offer support. I hope that helps a little. Good luck!

PackardV8 - you have a very good point. What we are seeing is a social pathology based on a country with huge reserves and generally a very high standard of living. Plenty does not bring on a frugality of spirit but lends people to over-indulge on a regular basis. The more that is available the more people want, even though they cannot support the expense or need it. This society is showing every ear mark of decline that others have demonstrated throughout history with the lack of self-discipline. Self-indulgance is a serious problem which is seen generally everywhere you look. A country of an ever growing obesity health problem shows it in other ways as you describe. This is nothing new really but I am surprized that it is ignored so easily. Perhaps it is inevitable. To be honest, is there any reason I should have two Cadillacs as well as a working truck? One should be enough. I have no answers, I wish that I did. But you make a good point. As always this is just my opinion....take it for what it is worth.

Oh my...an Edsel. Hmmmmmm. I doubt anyone could confuse that with a Cadillac but...you never know!

Really!!! I will be getting mine soon! What a gem it must be. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Pink with black and white interiors! What a combo! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Are you a member of the CLC too? I'd love to see some pictures of your Caddys. Oh by the way...have you see this on eBay? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...p;category=6146 Some Cadillac lover. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

THere can be nothing worse than to sell a beloved collector car to someone and have it abused. While I agree that once bought, it is that persons property, I would like to think they would be up front in the beginning to tell the seller what they will do with it. Assuming it isn't a hulk (and even if it were) that would give the seller the right of first refusal. Thank GOD the last owner of my '47 Cadillac did just that. Before I contacted him, he had been talking with a guy in California who wanted to chop and channel the car. To his credit, the owner turned down a healthy price to accept a lesser one from me because I wanted to keep the car original and use it as an original Cadillac. His choice but I applaud both his discretion and the buyers candor. Of course....as always...this is just my opinion. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I am looking for local chrome houses in Central New Jersey. Does anyone have any they can recommend that do first rate jobs? A freind had his front bumper done from a '58 Cadillac five years ago, stored it until the car was finished and now the chrome has deteriorated. How is that possible? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

UBB7-ML-199979-ML- Moved to the Technical Questions topic...Peter J. Heizmann

Tommy, if memory serves, that is the LeMans concept car Cadillac produced for the 1954 Motorama. That and the LeSabre were concepts designed by Harley Earl and his design team, along with the Eldorado Park Avenue in 1955 which would become the basis for the 1957 Eldorado Brougham. The LeMans is a gorgeous car. Thanks for the wonderful pictures of it!

Those are wonderful! I'd love to see a 1936 Bugatti Atlantic done in a fine mahogany with bird's eye maple interior! Wouldn't THAT be a hit! What class do you think that would be in at Hershey? <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Bruce, I haven't lived in PA since 1975 so I really cannot speak to what it would be like today, only what I hear on the forum. I would hope it would be as simple as that. What fun that would be to drive around Bucks County in a classic! That is some of the most beautiful country I have ever seen. Are there restrictions on when you can drive the trucks or are they limited to show and the like?

Is that because the tarp does not breathe? How do you escape this when using even really good car covers? I ask because I am forced to keep my cars out of doors. If a car cover gives no real protection, then I will have to rent a place to store them. Thanks, guys! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Karl....that is a beautiful Pierce! Thanks for the image!

Krk...does anyone have a GOOD experience with DMV? I lived in Pennsylvania for most of my teenage life before heading the Nuevo Mexico for college. I loved Bucks County and at times dreamed of living there in a stone farm house with a classic to drive...yeah ok it was a pipe dream. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Anyway...when I moved to Texas, they had to register my 1962 Lincoln as a truck due to the weight! The little thing behind the counter had never seen a car like it before. Sigh. I would hate to have had the '47 in PA. Out here in God's Country <G> the rules are a lot nicer...of course you still have to make 4 or 5 trips to the DMV cause they always want something you haven't got at the time....really irritating but other than that I can drive my classics with a collectors car plate. I guess the east being so crowded with cars and people has a lot to do with it...and the temperment. I still miss it though. Pax vobis cum, amici! (That's 'Peace be with you, ya'll!) And no, Wayne...who could ever tire of you? <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />