B Jake Moran

To be sure, I would love to own perhaps an SO 1947-1948 Frazer Manhattan. I have zero interest in a Kaiser from this era. Rudy Phillips once offered me a 1948 Frazer Manhattan with a factory leather interior for $1,000. Or, for historical artifact-ness, get a very early Frazer Manhattan built by Graham-Paige. Frazers had plusher interiors and details vs the Kaisers, but really aren't much different. For $25,000 a person can get a well sorted Dragon, could buy your Polar Grey Virginian, or a nice 52 Manhattan, or a Traveler. Lots of better choices.

There seems to be 2 camps in the old car hobby, or maybe more. One camp buys nice originals, older restorations, drivers at a higher price than a project and enjoys the cars. Others with arguably more money buy very nice cars, national award winner types. There does not seem to be much of a camp for projects. I appreciate your comments 55er. I continue to be curious what would make a good project? As for getting a 300 or a New Yorker, I would say no to the 300. 65-66 New Yorkers are equally as rare in my opinion. When it comes to going back to get an older car, I pretty much gravitate toward high end stuff I could not afford new. Think Buick's Riviera - Olds Toronado - Cadillacs Eldorado FWD cars. I enjoy my fair share of 4 doors too, but generally look for uniqueness in an older car purchase. To your point 55er, I am disappointed this seller, and many sellers on FB marketplace, make no adjustment of pricing, and include minimal written content about their car for sale. FB marketplace, as we have discussed, has limitations for a true seller, but still, most cars listed see few price reductions.

So, if I understand the Wikipedia article, the above noted Sterling would be the one to get, since it's the top of the line SLi model. Largely Honda, from what I have read (minimally) and basically an Acura Legend, it's a curiosity that I am pretty sure will end up in a Des Moines area U Pick It Yard where it will be curiously by passed.

Yes, I wonder why some of these manufacturers did these "off brand" Euro influenced cars back then. It's not a bad looking sedan. From Wikipedia -- Sterling was a brand name of automobile marketed in the United States by Austin Rover Cars of North America (later renamed Sterling Motor Cars), a division of the Rover Group company of the United Kingdom. It was sold in North America from 1987 to 1991, during which time Rover was in collaboration with Honda of Japan. Models sold were the Sterling 825, Sterling 827 and a limited production Sterling Oxford Edition based on the 827. Discontinuation - Combined with the effects of the strong British currency, Rover was losing money, and recovering lost ground with the facelifted car and its coupe sister was not deemed possible, and Rover Cars announced its withdrawal from the North American market in August 1991. At the time of the announcement, the company had sold fewer than 2,000 units so far that year.

What does the smart crowd think about this interior?

One thing I like - the trend of having folks scratch out the license plate rather then hold up a stupid finger.

Yeah not sure. IF, big IF a person could get it mechanically sorted, I do think it would be fun. Might be AACA eligible. Remember the Merkur from Ford? There was also a Mopar foreign badged car similar to these.

Marketplace - 1970 Lincoln Continental | Facebook About This Vehicle Driven 36,500 miles Automatic transmission Exterior color: Gold · Interior color: Beige Seller's Description Nice solid car. Solid body straight lines. Floors trunk are solid. Cars turn key ready to drive home. Contact for further info.

Correct, way over priced. You have to be a period collector with a nice 401k to want one of these. Correct pricing is no more than $12,000, and even then I am not paying $12,000. At some point, low overall interest cars that still should be collected and enjoyed surely have a realistic price point. I would pay $5,000 for it. That way I can enjoy it, maybe in rotation with a more desirable car, and my daughter can sell it for $4,000 or less when I die. But $25,000? No way. Jim Lape may disagree but KFOCI folks are dying off almost daily, the club is down to just a few souls. They won't merge with other orphans, so they themselves will become orphans.

Thank you for the comments. I know whatever I hand over to the restoration shop, which is a renowned Iowa based shop recommended years ago by West Peterson, is going to be "upside down". That is a conversation we have on here a lot. There would be many reasons to restore one final car for me. I am almost 60, so this would be a final bowshot at a restoration of a car as both a personal enjoyment and as stewardship - putting one back in the "gene pool" so to speak. The lack of power windows is a plus to me, AC scares me to death on a car this old, but I guess it's to be expected on a 300L. Why this car? As a previously noted fan of 65-66 Imperials, I like the styling of this one. The 413 ought to be supported by new rebuild parts, not sure what transmission is in there. Should be a Sure Grip back there. Being for sale for so long, my cash offer isn't going to be over $2,000, which is about as low as the market can bear on a project car these days with the pandemic driving up all prices and inflation. I am looking as well at Triumph TR's 3 and 4, which some 4's have been on here recently. I have also been looking at scratching my truck itch with a 1968-1972 GM. I owned a couple of them and love the styling, feel and they are reselling for a lot right now. Looking at a few other options, but I keep coming back to this car for some reason. I am also into Buicks and most old cars, such as Cadillacs and Lincoln, but many are more common. This is a weird duck in the pond. I can't believe someone hasn't purchased it. Resale value when I die and my daughter sells for my wife? Meh, maybe $20,000. I think I can get it restored for $75,000. What is really troubling me is that interior. Looks like a specific perforated leather and complex door panels. Dash Pad can be redone from "JUst Dashes" but at what price? All things all restorers have to grapple with. On the other hand, when I close my eyes, I can see rolling down all the windows, turning the key to hear the 413 burble, and placing it in D to go cruising after the 1st lawn mowing week in May, smelling the grass, flowers and hearing kids playing in a backyard.

I love it and I am sure the CLC guys would. I always loved that color on GM cars. John’s correct, rare 2 door.

Why? It’s straight, it has most options, a 413 and bucket seat console interior in off white. Appears complete. There aren’t any for sale at $15,000.

Marketplace - 1989 Sterling 827 SLi | Facebook Driven 43,000 miles Automatic transmission Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Seller's Description Replaced fuel pump + filter, have a replacement vehicle so not needed. Odometer died at 43k, new unit swapped in before it died, still have old unit. Blower motor for the AC/heat seems to have stopped functioning since sitting for a bit. Power sunroof, Automatic Honda 2.7L V6 Rebuilt title $2000 obo See less

I've got a spot to fill at a restoration shop and so far have resisted the temptation to send a car. I first looked at this car on facebook about 5 months ago and it occasionally comes up in my 65-66 Imperial searches. I save it then delete it. I have the seller's phone number. I am looking for the Mopar guys to dissuade me from calling him. The interior would all have to be done. I don't think anyone makes interior kits for anything but Mopar muscle cars.

Marketplace - 1965 Chrysler 300 | Facebook About This Vehicle Driven 80,000 miles Automatic transmission Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: White Fuel type: Gasoline Clean title This vehicle has no significant damage or problems. Seller's Description Never taken apart 413ci 360hp

Mileage now shows 107,892.

If “big if” this car actually has 7,900 original miles then the price is reasonable. I used to hate the 2nd series FWD Eldorados seeing them as bloated. But I have come to like them. They have to have the right color for me.

Overpriced but Cadillac called that Persian Lime and yes I love it. But they do not want to sell it or it would be price adjusted.

Some of these luxury 4 doors from 1974 to 1979 are nice looking cars. The 2 doors, like many of the American cars - eliminated roll down rear windows, no more 2 door hardtops. I love these cars. Imperial, Lincoln, Cadillac, Buick. Chrysler simply tried a slightly different approach to the closed rear quarter styling which I find stylish and others do not. GM was pretty safe with their treatment ( I owned a 76 Cadillac Coupe deVille). Lincoln’s were beautiful but 3 box. It’s a great hobby where we can all have our views and no one is really wrong.

Selling dealer just confirmed NO SALE NO SHOW but admits to 35 inquiries. It might sell for more than $6,950 BUT when cars are priced fairly, they sell quicker with more interest. That's why I am impressed with this car and disappointed with others that might place a $14,000 price on this car and see it go unsold for months or years.

Sold

Not a Citation so no interest

They said not sold but someone is looking at it in the morning.

I just sent them a Facebook message.