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Unfortunately, I did not learn/heed the warnings about the problems with the water in the muffler soon enough. I have drilled a drainage hole but, I see there is some rot on the bottom and I am figuring that it's not going to last too much longer. I know this is a long shot but, thought I would ask anyway. Does anyone out there have a muffler that they would be willing to sell or know someone that has one that they are willing to sell? I would prefer OEM. If I am unable to find an OEM muffler I would turn to other sources such as Waldrons. Does anyone have any experience with their mufflers? Are they constructed the same way internally and function as OEM? Any advice or help with this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Bill
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For sale is a hat for the Pontiac Oakland Club International. This hat was purchased at the 2001 Pontiac Oakland Club International Convention in Red Wing Minnesota.The hat has never been worn and is in excellent condition. Size large. $10.00 plus shipping Please PM me if interested. Thanks.Bill
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For sale is a tested, working glove box light switch typical of the type used on General Motors cars and trucks in the 40's, 50,s and 60's. The switch is in good used condition. The switch also has the retaining nut. This particular switch was taken from a 1963 Pontiac Tempest. $5.00 plus shipping. Please PM me if interested. Thanks.Bill
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For sale is an ad for the Oakland Eight from the May, 1930 Ladies Home Journal. The ad is contained in a very nice looking antique frame. The size of the framed ad is 10 5/8" X 7 3/4. $10.00 plus shipping. Please PM me if interested. Thanks.
Bill
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For sale is a 1946 Pontiac 16" wheel, hub cap and trim ring. All of the pieces appear to be in reasonably good shape. This was hanging in the garage when my parents purchased our house in 1967. I had Pontiac collector cars and this hung proudly in my garage/shop for many years. I now have a 1963 Buick Riviera. Rather than hang on to it I would like it to go to someone who can use it. A kind member of the forum identified the year of the wheel for me and suggested a fair selling price. $50.00 OBO plus shipping. Please PM me if interested. Thanks.
Bill
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6 hours ago, pontiac1953 said:
i would think $50.00 is a good price.
Thank you for all of your help.
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7 minutes ago, pontiac1953 said:
last year for 16" wheels for pontiac was 1948, your hubcap looks to be 1946.
Thank you for that. Any idea if this would be of use to anyone? If so, what would be a fair price? Any input appreciated. Thanks.
Bill
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Hi,
I am asking for a bit of help identifying the year of a Pontiac wheel, trim ring and hub cap. This wheel was hanging in the garage of my parents home when we moved in in 1967. It is a 16" wheel and was originally painted a different color with a white pinstripe. I had Pontiac collector cars for years and this hung proudly in my garage or shop for many years. The Pontiacs are gone and I now own a Buick. All the pieces appear to be in good shape. Rather than hang on to it I would like to see it go to someone with a Pontiac that can put it to good use. I appreciate any help identifying this that anyone can give me. Thanks.
Bill
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Seat project done. Turned out great. Thanks to KongaMan and Tom for your help.
Bill
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On 4/19/2018 at 5:36 PM, Seafoam65 said:
All you have to do on the transverse muffler to keep it from rusting out so often is drill a small
hole in the bottom at the lowest point so the water can drain out.
I finally did this and am amazed at how much water drains out. I normally try to take the car out for a drive when I do start it up. However, I have times where I am working on it or just have to move the car to access something else in the garage where I can't run it or get it hot enough to burn the moisture off. This is a great tip to help preserve your muffler in these situations. Both of the Nissan Frontiers I have owned had a hole at the back of the muffler where water drains out for this very reason I am sure.
Bill
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1 hour ago, Scott Mckenzie said:
I need a lead on Pinchweld clips for my headliner install I only have 4 in my puzzle box.Tim Sweely is looking but more eyes the better . they are 2 inches long 1/4 thick and 1/2 wide with a groove in the middle to slip over the headliner and pinchweld Made of nylon or some other plastic .Page 6 3c in the body service manual. I swear I will never buy a car in boxes again... ( till the next time) !
Scott,
These are usually pretty much trash when one goes to redo a headliner. I was fortunate enough to be able to salvage enough of them to work when I redid my headliner. Later on I thought of an idea that might work as a substitute. One could cut up the plastic binder that comes with the clear page/report protectors. I have attached a couple of pictures of one.
Bill
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40 minutes ago, telriv said:
The chrome cay acted as the retainer Bill.
Thanks Tom
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6 minutes ago, KongaMan said:
BTW, if you're going to drill out the hole, I'd suggest using a brad point bit rather than conventional bit. The flat face of the brad point will tend to cut the thin nylon cleanly, while a conventional bit with a pointed tip would be prone to tearing it.
Thanks for that tip. I will do that.
Bill
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1 hour ago, telriv said:
Bill,
i meant to say 4 C-Clips. And sorry, NO, I don't have that piece your looking for.
Tom,
I have a question. Were there retainers on the outboard side PLUS the chrome cap or did the chrome cap act as the retainer?
That Firebird sounds like it was a lot of fun. My uncle had a 1969 Firebird convertible with a 400 4-speed that he bought when he got back from Vietnam. That was a nice car. I fell in love with Pontiacs when I was in high school (which was a long time ago) and GTO's long before they were fashionable. My dream car was 1 65 GTO convertible. I had a 69 GTO when I was in college. One of the most reliable cars I ever owned. The last ones being a 63 Grand Prix, a 1963 Tempest Custom convertible with the 4 cylinder and lastly a 1963 Tempest Lemans convertible with the 326 HO. I sold that car with the intentions of finally getting my 65 GTO. We had a couple of bummer trips looking at GTOs and I just happened to see the Arctic White Riv we ended up buying on e-bay. I fell in love with it and just couldn't get it out of my mind. The clincher was that my wife's grandma had an Arctic White 63 Riviera that her dad originally had. Grandma would take her out driving in the Riv when she had her temporary license. She was excited about getting the Riv. I have found that it is always good to have the woman of the house invested in some way in the old car habit. We bought the Riv and it has been a fun and interesting ride. It took a couple of years to get rid of all my Pontiac memorabilia and signs and am now fully stocked with Buick items in my workshop.
I have attached a picture of Grandma Radcliffe next to her 63 Riv. I display this picture when we go to car shows. We paid homage to Grandma Radcliffe and had 1963 Wisconsin license plates made up with the same month and numbers as hers. In the background you can see my brother-in-laws 57 Olds (that dad gave him) and my father-in-laws 62 Lincoln. He was not a car guy but, he always had cool cars.
Bill
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56 minutes ago, KongaMan said:
KongaMan,
Thanks for that heads up. Menards is one of my favorite places to shop. I will get there this afternoon.
Bill
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54 minutes ago, telriv said:
Bill,
I'm glad I was of help to yourself & possibly others as well. I reply to these posts because I have been there & done that. It also is a great feeling to be able to help/point others in the right direction. For me it's kinda FUN!!! SOMETIMES in the process I can make a few $$$ along the way to help supplement a fixed income of SS which is barely enough to cover property taxes on the house.
I have found a knish, as small as an audience as it may be, to help keep the "Nail" alive & strong. These 1st. gen Rivs are just TOO COOL. One of the reasons I bought mine new in '64.
I don't mean to come off as condescending & apologize if I came off as such. HAVING FUN is the main objective.
Tom T.
Tom,
I am relatively new to the Buick Riviera after spending many years with Pontiacs. I have learned a lot since I first got my Riv and continue to learn everyday, much of it from this forum. People like you that have lived with these cars for all of these years are an invaluable resource that everyone should take advantage of. It is a great thing that you are so willing to share what you know. Not all people are like that. I have great respect for the knowledge and the wisdom that many of the people on this forum and in the various clubs have attained. When I had my Pontiacs I was fortunate to find someone that had a great body of knowledge that he was willing to share with me.
Speaking of supplemental income. Do you have 4 of these washers that you would be willing to sell? If you have 4 of the C shaped retainer rings I would buy these as well. The guy that owns the Ace Hardware here has enough money. I have a go to guy for my parts and so far he has come up empty. I am also looking for a nice driver's side outboard curved chrome piece. Mine is pretty good but, has some scratches in the brushed area and a ding at the bottom. Let me know. Thanks.
Bill
P.S. Yes! Fun is the name of the game!
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18 minutes ago, telriv said:
Bill,
I don't know how you can say that with authority. When these cars were made WHATEVER was in the box was used. MANY of these parts are produced by various manufacturers & MANY times are different. Do you think the line is going to stop because the WRONG fastener was in the bin??? Of course not likely.
Just like front fender bolts can have different head markings from one side to the other.
I don't claim to be an upholstery expert, but I've taken apart enough of them in the early days that this is what I've found. If your SO concerned about correctness why are you purchasing black plastic washers??? ALL the ones I have taken apart in the past have been a WHITE plastic. There seems to be NO deviation on them. Depending on the color of the seats black will stick out like a sore thumb. Whereas white will blend in with most any color. Just more of my thoughts.
On another note, for the most part MOST will NEVER see or notice them unless they are pointed out.
Tom T.
Tom,
I was not saying definitive or with authority. I was just reporting what I found being sold there and that is why I asked if a certain one was used on the Rivs. You just answered that question and now I know that any of the ones pictured will work. I will probably opt for the C shaped retainer as it seems it will be the easiest to remove.
As far as the washers go I looked at many different sources and the ones I had pictured above seemed to be the style shown and sold for many GM makes and other Manufacturers as well. There I was using the reasoning that if they used these on other GM makes they most likely were used on the Buicks as well. That is why I asked for a picture and/or description so that I knew what they looked like. Now I know they are white plastic. White is perfect for me as my seats are white. The search goes on.
I know that most people will never see or notice many of the things we do to our cars.That's OK, as I know what I have done and if I am going to do something I want to do it as closely to what was done originally as possible. That's just me.
I appreciate all of your input and help in getting this sorted out. I learned some new things that were helpful and I'm sure this will help others as well.
Bill
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45 minutes ago, telriv said:
Thanks for the pictures Tom. Thanks for the retainer source Ed. I have the chrome caps which were on the outboard side. I did some research and found that the type that is directly above the chrome cap was used on the Camaro and Firebird. The C shaped retainer that is 2 above the chrome cap was used on full-sized Chevys. I know this is being super picky but, does anyone know which type was used for the inboard side on the Rivs? I did find the hinge washers being supplied by some of the various repro parts vendors. I bought a set on e-bay. Picture attached.
Bill
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27 minutes ago, telriv said:
they are 1 1/2" round with a hole in the middle to fit over the pin.
Tom,
I had that part figured out. I was just looking for other things like color, type of material, etc. Thanks.
Bill
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32 minutes ago, telriv said:
Bill,
In reality you could actually make the washers out of some gasket making material. I measured the thickness at about .060" which is about 1/16th. There is NO force or tension against them it's ONLY for protecting the seat material. I just went & measured mine & they are approx. 1 1/2" in diameter. I will take a pic of the retainers, there are 3 diff. types I know of, & they can be bought at a hardware store. I will go to my sisters later to have her show me how to attach a pic.
Tom T.
Tom,
Could you also include one of the washers in the picture also please? Thanks. I appreciate the help.
Bill
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10 hours ago, telriv said:
Bill,
The plastic behind the door & widow cranks is MUCH too stiff & WON'T provide the protection. Those washers are VERY flexible. I will have to dig some out & measure them. Same with the hinge pin retainer.
Will get back probably tomorrow.
Tom,
I would appreciate that. Do you by chance have any extras that you would be willing to sell? I would need 4 washers and the 2 inboard hinge pin retainers. Thanks.
Bill
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2 hours ago, telriv said:
All I can tell you is that it is a thin piece of plastic about 1 1/4" in diameter. It's very flexible also. Just helps keep the metal from rubbing the upholstery.
Tom T.
Thanks Tom. Would they be similar to the washers that go behind interior door handles and window cranks? Any idea what the inboard hinge pin retainer looks like?
Bill
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Here is the page from the body manual showing what I was describing.
Bill
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I recently had my bucket seats out of my car to do some cosmetic cleanup and painting. I was paging through the body manual to look something up and noticed a diagram and explanation of how to remove the seat back from the bottom. I already knew how to separate the 2 halves. I was surprised to see by viewing the diagram that on each side where the 2 halves hinge together they are each supposed to have a washer and a retainer. When I took my seats apart the only piece I had on my seats was the chrome cap retainer on the outboard side. I was missing the 4 washers and the inboard retainers. Can anyone describe to me or supply a picture of what type of washers should be there and what the retainer looks like on the inboard side? Thanks.
Bill
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Want To Buy: 1963 Muffler
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Thanks for the input from everyone so far. When I got the car back in 2014, I had the whole exhaust replaced front to back by the local shop that works on my car. I remember the owner being so excited that he finally got to use that Riviera muffler that had been with the stock when he purchased the business and had been saving for the past 25 years. Tom, at that time you had already suggested to me to use the 65 GS exhaust pattern. They bend all of their own pipes so that's what I told them to do. We did not go with resonators at that time because the new muffler really did do the job and besides that I love the rumble of a V8. The whole system is like new except for the muffler which is starting to show some rot on the bottom. I will be keeping the car so the idea of replacing the muffler with a stainless steel one from Waldron's has its appeal. However, if I find an OEM muffler at a reasonable price and use the preventive measures suggested on the forum to boost its longevity that would be OK too. I think I will be fine for this year and maybe into next year but, I know it's coming so I want to get things in place now so I am not scrambling later.
Bill