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Yeah, but you know the important thing about it is that it's "art". The wife couldn't complain about it if you hung it over the mantle.

I just stumbled across this item that might be of some interest to those who own or admire '36 Dodges. Here's a chance for you to express your great taste artistically! 1936 Dodge Convertible Sedan Photograph by John Bartosik - 1936 Dodge Convertible Sedan Fine Art Prints and Posters for Sale

Here's a link to page which has a couple of different photos of the coupe in post #41. Perhaps it was shot on a sunnier day or with a little more exposure. Of course there's no way of knowing if that's Stratosphere blue or not, but it sure is pretty! 1936 Dodge 2Door Coupe | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

This is on Craigslist for northern Wisconsin: 1924 maxwelle chrysler coupe parts

New sleeves can be pressed in your valve guides. You might give the nice folks at Northwestern Auto Supply a call on those engine parts. They bought out a lot of old stock over the years have a substantial accumulation. They are in Grand Rapids MI. Northwestern Auto Supply, Antique Auto Parts, Old Car and Truck Parts For Sale, Engine Parts, Grand Rapids, Michigan

A gentleman named Lynn Wicker made some relevant remarks on the subject of the BASF Color Max system in a recent thread on the Plymouth section of this forum. He indicated that BASF had an Antique Color Chips CD available. Available to whom, I don't know, but it might be an interesting pursuit. http://forums.aaca.org/f154/can-anyone-translate-1930-paint-codes-336696.html

Do you have any old chip charts available to compare your car's paint to? I doubt if you'll want to hear this, but I don't think that your color is Avon Green. Avon Green is a bright yellowish-green. Even though my old chip charts can't be trusted for much, the Avon Green chips really do come quite close to the photos above. I think that your color has quite a bit of blue in it. If I had to guess, I'd say that it's Palm Green. 36D2, would you mind telling us where to write to the Chrysler Corp to get the build sheet that you referenced? It would be very interesting to know for sure what colors jpage and my cars were originally. I'm sure that there's other info that would be interesting, as well.

I've seen a number of them on '35s and '36s Chrysler products. An attractive accesory item that was short lived. There wasn't any application for them when emergency brakes became operated by underdash mounted pull-out handles.

Also, for what it's worth a few other greens that I've latched onto along the way. Some of the examples are Plymouth. They mostly had the same colors with the same or similar names, although Plymouth did have an Aquamarine that I'm not sure I've found in any of my Dodge chip charts. Remember, this is just an demonstration of variety. I think we already proven that an image of someone's car is no indication that the color is authentic.

That could very well be Avon Green. I sure that most folks realize that paints not only fade over time, but they also shift as red and blue elements diminish and yellow and green remain stronger. Here's an older half-primered example of what I imagine was Avon Green and a couple of pics that I don't know anything about.

Well, I appreciate your input! I guess that what remains is "Palm Green", "Hunter Green" and a spring only offering of "Harvester Green". While it would be fun to get all of this straight, I can tell that it will never happen.

For what it's worth, I'll contribute a picture of a sedan in that's been repainted in an attempt at an original color. I kept the image because I recall the the ad for it stated it had been painted it's original factory "Avon Green". Also, an old wheel from another listing that looks to be original. My info states that the wheels on an Avon green car would have "whirlpool" green on the them.

That's a sharp blue on the coupe. I could come to like that color a lot. I don't guess we'll ever know if that was an attempt at matching an original color or not. The owner took the effort to paint the "sunburst" on the wheel in a silver color. A number of the '36 colors called for silver on the wheels. The gray wheel is most likely the same color my coupe was originally. It, too, called for a silver contrast color on the wheel. It's likely that it's "Gunmetal" gray, All of the chip charts, even if they're not reliable, show Gunmetal as being considerably darker than Dolphin Gray.

1930, thank you again for educating us! We've all experienced that "glassy-eyed" look from guys on the other side of the counter.

I agree that the wheel on the left is '36 Dodge. I've come across the wheel on the right occasionally with Chrysler products. I've always assume that being identical, with the exception of the hub cap mounts, it must be '35. I've never known for sure, though.

1936D2, thank you for those pics. No, they don't look much like your Mercury Metallic at all. Have you ever come across a know example of Dolphine Gray? 1930, Thank you for the info you've shared here. I simply had no idea that the process could be made that easy. I assume, however, that we're talking about ordering this paint online, by mail or by phone, Is that correct? No local retailer involved? Basf is a German company, right? Glasurit is a name that I associate with Basf. Though I see from a quick BASF look up that the old R-M (Rinshed - Mason auto paints) trade name has survived as a part of BASF. I assumed that they were long gone. Do you have any idea how they convert the old formulas (with their proprietory toners) to their current tints?

"Mercury Metallic"...fascinating. We both had good seemingly good, detailed chip charts and yet they held little resemblance to reality. So, now, what the heck does "Stratosphere Blue" really look like? Also, what I thought might be Mercury Metallic in the photos I sent you might actually be "Dolphine Gray."

The old paint chip charts are a great tool for comparing colors and choosing which particular color you favor. Over time I've accumulated '35 and '36 Dodge, Plymouth and Chrysler chip charts from every paint manufacturer that I could. They include color examples (chips), formulas and some of them will even list the coordinating wheel and pin stripe color that the factory choose to complement it. Also, some will indicate spring colors that became available to "spruce up" the look of the line at some point. Reference is made on some of them to west coast colors, as well. There's a couple of things that a person has to bear in mind about them, though. First, the chips are ink. Great care was taken to make them as accurate as possible, but they never were paint. Secondly, they offer paint formulas, "recipes" if you wish, using the color components of paint (called toners) that haven't been available for years. Having the correct formula from one of these chip charts can't do much more than suggest some idea of what the make up of the original color was. The formula for the Gun Metal Gray Poly in question indicates the use of a green toner, along with other elements. I've noticed that quality about the bits and pieces of original Gun Metal Gray paint I've found in places on my '36 Plymouth. It's unfortunate, but in order for a paint shop to get a proper computer scan (acquired reading is their term) of an existing color the sample has to be much larger than the old chips on these charts. If I recall right 3"X5" or 5"X7" was needed, but I read somewhere that the industry anticipated that eventually that size would decrease in time. I know of an auto paint store that uses chip booklets that contain somewhat large modern paint chips which have holes in them for placement over an existing specimen. Their specialist used that method to come up with a paint (Volkswagon, if you can imagine) that he could tweak minimally to match a Hudson color for me. The Auto color library folks just simply use the old chips in conjunction with new ones, good lighting, experience and good judgement to come up with results. I've looked on my gray '36 Ply for a spot to get a satisfactory read, but I can't find anything that I would trust. I've posted a photo of a beautiful example of the color on a coupe that was on Ebay a while back. I wrote the owner offering to pay him for the formula or some specimen of it, but he wouldn't be bothered with replying. 36D2, I'm the guy who sent you the file (on disc) of Chip charts, etc last year. Earlier in this thread you said that the color on your fender was Mercury Metallic. I'm confused, I thought that we figured it was Stratosphere Blue. Have you new info?

The funny thing about both of those yards is that they are always adding more old cars. It surprises me, but I suspect that in many cases guys finally give up on life long projects and want them gone quickly. It's sad to see old cars parted out, but maybe in the long run they serve a greater purpose that way.

'35 Plymouth Rumbler for sale. I think that they are calling it that because it has a rumble seat, but maybe it's some sort of colloquialism from some distant and obscure part of the country. Thoughts? 1935 Plymouth Rumbler

In central Minnesota are two of the nations largest junk yards. I'll give you links to both, but I think that it's the first one that I recall having a '37 or '38 Imperial coupe. There's somebody back east that custom makes metal rumble seat frames to spec. I don't know where I know that from, but I'll continue to ponder it. Welcome to French Lake Auto Parts - French Lake, MN Windy Hill Auto Parts | Home

I think that this one's been for sale for a while. The pictures are small and less than great. I just came across it again and this time I studied it a little more. I don't know Nashes of this era well, but it looks to me like it's an overhead engine. Is this a more senior model? If so, it's possible that there is a more valuable car here than it looks like at first glance. What do you guys think? 1927 Nash 2dr Sedan I guess that , while I'm at it, I'll ad this other Kansas listing as well. It's for a four door. I know nothing about the car. http://kansascity.craigslist.org/atq/3167430239.html

As '51s go, this one is less common than many. Looks like a nice body from the one picture. Also quite well equipped with options. I thought I'd point it out to you guys. Collectible Cars - 1940's - 1975

What more could you ask for? Complete 52 Packard

I don't know if this will be of interest to anyone, but I thought it's worth the effort to point it out. 1934 plymouth coupe parts