nooshinjohn Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Hi guys!!! Just upgraded my 63 with a full poly-graphite front end kit from PST. I am happy to report that my car now handles better than even my much newer Chevy Monte Carlo! Almost all body roll has been eliminated as well as the extreme nose down posture the car would assume under braking. All in all this upgrade is perhaps the best investment made so far in getting my car back into a roadworthy condition. does anybody that reads this know if the 65 gs Rivi rear end bushings are the same as the 63 cars... PST makes the rear end kit for the 65 and if they are the same I will definately buy one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BJM Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 That's interesting. Years ago I looked into a front end poly kit from PST, received their catalog and realized the only cars ever made were GM A bodies from 64 to 72, Camaros and Mustangs. I was surprised to learn that is all that was ever made and every other car was a figment of my imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nooshinjohn Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share Posted January 27, 2007 I was suprised to learn they made one, but I am so glad I got it. I dont want to sound like a sales person for them or anyone else for that matter but when something is this good you gotta let the group know about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gee_Rydes Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 I did a 67 Camaro with their kit years ago and I agree it was awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philippe Racicot Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I looked at the PST website and saw the listing for the 1971 and newer full size Buicks but I didn't find it for the 1965 Riviera. Can someone show me the link?ThanksPhil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nooshinjohn Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 I did not find the link either, so I just called and asked. They were very helpful...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philippe Racicot Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I'm wondering if the 1965 Riv front end kit is the same as for the other 1965 full size Buicks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I did not find the link either, so I just called and asked. They were very helpful...... </div></div> Hmmm... thats different from what I was told today. While they had front end kits for the 64 Riviera, they were not poly, just plain rubber. They were very nice, just didn't have what I wanted, though I think any front end kit would make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BJM Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Bill,As far as I know, there's no difference in the 63-65's front ends. Maybe you got a salesman who wasn't as knowledgeable about their products, not sure. I am sure they would have to check parts interchanges and basically "mix and match" to get the right parts for certain models. Kind of like we check parts interchage guides to see what was made for all GM. I think someone needs to keep at them. And once a kit is received, note the part numbers for everything and pass that information along to other interested parties, making PST's job easier the next time, rather then having to re-look up parts numbers. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTX5467 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 In looking at my Chilton's Crash Parts Manual for those model years, there were some different numbers for the '63 and '64-'65 front end parts, in some parts and also some crossover between the Riv and full size Buicks in other parts. These are GM numbers, which could have consolidated in later years, but the manual goes from about '64 to '74. From the way it looks, there's no universal crosses between the fullsize Buicks of '65 or so and the same model year Rivs.I know everybody likes to talk "kit", but these vendors might just pull the parts from their bins according to a pre-printed list that makes up a particular "kit" part number for them, but if you try to get them off of their menu items, the result might not be what you need. Therefore, it might be better to concentrate on, say, ball joints plus upper control arm bushing kits and such as individual items per se rather than expect a vendor to have a "complete kit" for a particular vehicle. If you can find out that they have all of the individual items to make up "a kit", then you might ask if they would sell you the package of parts at the kit price.For additional "shopping information", you might also check out the Moog or RockAuto.com websites to see what their replacement part numbers might be and then possibly get the PST people to cross them for you. In doing urethane bushing replacements, remember that some parts of the suspension are meant to absorb road shocks and road shocks not absorbed "there" will be transferred to other places to be dissipated (via flex of something that might not have been designed to handle the added flex or force). Rubber bushings might take a set or compress, but urethane can crack and break AND some of the urethane replacement bushings come with provisions for CHASSIS GREASE to keep them from squeeking.Even if the replacement bushings might only be available in normal rubber rather than urethane, they'll probably be a harder rubber than GM originally spec'd. Fresher rubber bushings would be better than what you now have, especially if none are available in urethane.Just some thoughts,NTX5467 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BJM Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 I agree you make some excellent points. In fact, part of that feel of "improvement" is simply going from a worn out front end to all brand new. You would have to compare a "brand new" rubber bushing installed front end to a new "urethane" installed front end and THEN note the difference. Also, rubber does allow for some absorption of bumps, and that is why even new manufacturers use rubber in some points of contact in their suspensions, such as sway bar bushings. So, go into a swap with that understanding and you'll be all right. we tend to want our full size Buicks to ride smooth and comfortable, although I see the merits in improved handling as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Riviera Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Dear Mr.Sweeny, Thank you for your recent inquiry regarding parts for your 1963 Riviera. We do have a front end kit in polygraphite for $309. Unfortunately it is not listed on our website yet. If you have any further questions regarding this kit, or to place an order,please feel free to give me a call at 800-247-2288 ext.354. Thank you and have a great day.NikkeePST Sales <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaRiviera Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 HI,Does anyone know where to buy the rear trailing arm bushings and panhard bar bushings for a 64' Riviera??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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