Philippe Racicot

I just took a picture of the black plastic box. I removed the relays that were taped around it.

I have looked at the Buick Farm website years ago to search for that part and I didn't see it but I didn't contact them. I'll try to take a picture of the plastic box that's still in the car. It's in storage right now.

I checked circuits and I have tried ordering replacement ICs but these didn't work at all. I damaged the traces as I've tried many times and I just reinstalled the original Sprague IC (I've added a quick connector). At least the original IC still locks the doors (quite annoying that it doesn't unlock them so I left it disconnected for the last 7 years!). I'd like to have another circuit board rather than attempting to fix mine again! It looks like not a lot of junkyards are looking at removing these parts. Also, it's an option that was ordered on less than 10% of the cars on which it was available. I'll search for the 1976 part too with the part numbers you provided me.

I've been searching for the power door lock control module for my 1975 Electra for quite some time. Mine has gone bad and it won't unlock the doors anymore. The relays are fine. Here's a picture of it. The module is located in a plastic box attached to the wiring behind the glove box. It was available as an option on the Electra and Riviera models. Cadillac offered similar modules a year later but they don't interchange. Not all cars that have power door locks have it, it was a separate option. If you have parts cars, look for a black plastic box with two relays taped to it, it looks almost like it was an add on but it's a factory option.

Wow! I had missed this thread! I can tell you that 4 of the unknown Canadian codes for 1965 Models are for Wildcats like my 1965 with cloth interior. Body style 46669 and 46639 codes 978-982 same cloth as Electra 225 Custom models. Back when I ordered cloth for my car from SMS auto fabrics 18 years ago, They asked me for the trim number and they didn’t have those in their catalogs. They mailed me samples which didn’t match but I sent them a picture and they figured it was the cloth used on Electra 225 Custom models.

Is the system in your car manual, semi automatic of fully automatic? As you said, you need to replace the sensor at the back of the passenger side head. I don't know the part number but it shouldn't be hard to find! As for the system that stays in "no heat" it could be many things... To help you with that, I'd need more details and pics of your system. I know that 1971 to early 1974 automatic systems could be locked in no heat mode if the outside temp sensor (on the evaporator box) or it's connection was wrong... After that, the Mark II programmers were changed so if the same situation happens, the system gets full heat. It happened to me once during the summer... All I needed to do was to clean the sensor connectors.

A few I'd like: a fully loaded '53 Roadmaster Riviera hardtop (must have A/C!), a fully loaded 55 Century 4 door hardtop. A fully loaded 1959 Electra Riviera with auto heat and Flightpitch transmission. A '65 Wildcat Custom coupe with all options but the cruise control or automatic transmission (that means I'd want a 4 speed!)...

Hi Joe, I was wondering if you saw this thread!

Certainly not the among the rarest but a model that's not seen often and not even listed in most litterature, the 1965 and 1966 Wildcat Custom 4 door sedan model 46669. The 1980 LeSabre Turbo is another rare sight, I saw just one, many years ago in the local shopping center and I saw it for sale in Montreal some time ago.

You can't measure the bolt pattern from hole center to hole center on a 5 lug wheel. Try this chart:

I know the '65 shifter is different (the black '65 Wildcat is mine). And the '65 LeSabre with a 3 speed manual trans had a shifter knob similar to the one of the '64 Wildcat pictured above. But here's a picture of another '64 Wildcat with an automatic transmission, look at the shifter. Here's a '65 LeSabre with a manual transmission the knob is similar to the '64 with automatic transmission but the shifter is also straight.

I don't think so, but an hour before I saw this car I saw a '65 LeSabre Custom with a 3 speed manual transmission. It was in bad shape, not running and the owner wanted a about 10 times what the car was worth! Too bad it wasn't a Wildcat 4 speed!

Derek, the 1966 Wildcat 4 door hardtop was available with both the vinyl notchback seat and the cloth bench with armrest. The cloth bench was available at extra cost. In the 1966 4dr sedan, only the cloth bench with armrest was available and in the hardtop and convertible coupes, the vinyl notchback bench was standard and the buckets were available as an option. All Oshawa-built Wildcats had Custom trim in 1965-66 and they had model numbers beginning by 466 (even the sedan): 46637-46639-46667-46669. I think that all 1964 Wildcats built in Canada also had Custom trim. This page of the 1966 French Canadian brochure shows the 1966 Wildcat Custom cloth bench seat. The first paragraph says: The bench seat represented on your left with a useful retractable center armrest is among the standard equipment on the 4 door sedan and is available at extra cost on the 4 door hardtop. http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5910/0001520.jpg' alt='0001520.jpg'>

For years, I have been a member of the BCA and the ROA but I didn't renew my subscriptions. As I live in Canada, having the Bugle shipped here is more expensive and that reflects in the price of the subscription. I wish I could pay a membership fee and have access to the Bugle online but not the printed version. Before internet was popular (discussion forums, eBay, Cragislist, Kijiji and other classified ad websites) , the club's monthly or bi-monthly magazines with ads were a great way to get members and help them find parts with the printed ads. Now, with internet, it lost some of it's interest. I still like to read articles in magazines but since I don't like throwing things away, I now have a big pile paper that I just keep and I don't want getting more! About the age of members... I'm 32 and even if I'm already getting some gray hair, I still find myself young! I have a few friends who are Buick fans and around my age. When I was 10 years old (in 1987) I was very impressed with the current Buick Grand National and I also looked older ones like Wildcats, Rivieras, Gran Sports and Electras with great interest. With today's lineup, and the last cool Buicks being 23 years old (older than the '65 Wildcats were when I first got a real interest in them!). I'm wondering if I'd care about any Buick if I'd be 10 years old now! I recently spent more internet time on other forums like GMI trying to change the brand perception of younger folks posting there and on GM blogs but GM keeps refusing to make any cool RWD Buick available here. The new brand definition from GM uses words like "Quiet Tuning" (far from the 1966-67 "The tuned car" ad slogan) understated elegance (I don't care much for that!) "near luxury" (that sounds loser!) and other things like the innovative blind zone alert for drivers above 100 years old... I want a new Buick that can spin it's rear tires, make some noise and that will wake up those that fall asleep while driving by making their heart beat faster! I noticed that I'm not alone wanting some nicer RWD products from my favourite brand but that's just not happening (and THAT also hurts the BCA). I had one newer FWD Buick that I hated so much that I'll never have another FWD vehicle. Now, to preserve the Buicks that I like, I stopped driving them daily and I now drive RWD Toyotas...

Here in Canada, before 1967, Wildcats that were sold here were built in Oshawa. It was the most expensive model built there as the Electra 225 and Riviera had to be imported (and before the auto pact, they were taxed). The hardtop coupes and convertibles sold before 1966 had standard Custom trim, standard consoles and standard automatic transmissions with a console and standard tachmeter. In 1966, the console was an option just like in the new Riviera. The 4 door Wildcat models were also available only with Custom trim and that includes the 4 door sedans (which had model numbers 46669 in 1965-66). The in 1965-66, hardtop sedans were available with the all vinyl interior and notchback front seat like the US Custom models or with at extra cost with a cloth bench seat with center armrest similar to the one used in the Electra 225 Custom. The door panels were similar to those of the base Electra 225 but the cloth was the same as the one used in the Electra 225 Custom. Power window switches ad door armrest were like those in the Electra 225 too. In 1965-66, when power windows were ordered in any Canadian Wildcat model, power vents were also included. That was not the case in 1964 or on other 1965-66 Buick models available in Canada. This was the first time I saw a '64 Canadian model Wildcat 4 door sedan. I don't know much about 1964 Buick interiors so that's why I posted it here. Here are pics of my '65 46639 with trim code 980, I know someone who has the same interior (but in green) in his '65 Wildcat but the trim code in his car is 978. Here's a 1966 4 door sedan model 46669

Yesterday, I went to a junkyard and I saw this 1964 Wildcat 4 door sedan. It's in bad condition but it has an unusual interior that is similar to the interior in some 1965-66 Canadian models I have seen (including mine). It has Electra 225 armrests and power window switches. Were there similar door panels found on the US models? Unlike the 1965-66 models, the front seat has no center armrest.

Thanks for the links Roberta, here are two other links for those who have suggestions for GM... I'd really want a RWD Buick of any kind. I don't like FWD vehicles and I don't think I'll ever buy one again! General Motors | GM Reinvention | Tell Fritz GM FastLane

I wish there would be some performance-oriented RWD Buicks available in North America. But GM seems to refuse doing so... Some people keep asking GM, I'm among them! See the links to some GM websites... GM FastLane General Motors | GM Reinvention | Tell Fritz

I have seen some pictures of Tommy Ivo's 1963 Riviera that shows it with chrome wheels. I have seen a picture of the same car (the first one) with wire wheelcovers so the chrome wheels were probably not original. I'm wondering what kind of center caps it has, these pics are too small to tell. The wheels look like those of the '64 Wildcats. The 1963 "Wildcat 445 " show car had these wheels too with plain chrome center caps

Hi, I'd be interested in the 1974-76 vackup light lenses. you can email me pics of them at phil.racicot@gmail.com Thanks Phil

These are often missing and I haven't got any problem with them... But the 1969 wheels won't accept the 1978 center caps unless you modify them as the center cap hole is too big on the 1966-70 wheels. I have seen a few early seventies Buicks with pre-1971 Buick rims and it didn't seem to cause problems. They stand out 1/2" compared to the 1978 wheels but that shouldn't cause problems. The sixties wheels are a bit rarer than the 1971 and newer wheels. If you care about having the correct center caps, I'd look for these first. There are also larger 15X7 wheels that were available in the late seventies. Just like the 1971 and newer 15X6 wheels, they also have the correct 2" hole for your car's center caps but they are harder to find.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 63Stude</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't ever remember seeing a '73 LeSabre Custom with the Centurion interior...only a '73 Centurion with the Centurion interior. I know there was no Centurion in '74 and the LeSabre Luxus basically took its place in the lineup (including the sole convertible body style). I remember '74 Luxus models having the notchback front seat with center armrest as did '73 and earlier Centurions. Question: I can't remember where, but not too long ago I saw a Centurion with a rear-seat center armrest. Is that right? Never saw one before. It was a four-door hardtop, but the upholstery and design looked like I remembered for Centurions. Bill P. </div></div> I haven't seen a 1973 LeSabre with this interior but I have a 1973 brochure and it shows it. Here's the same page from the old car manual website: http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/main.php?g2_itemId=10177 I'm wondering how many had this interior. This is an Estate wagon with the Centurion interior As for Centurions with a rear seat armrest, the 4 door models had one, like the Wildcat Custom 4 door models (my '65 has one and so did my '68) models and the Electra 225 Custom and Limited. The coupes didn't have a rear seat armrest (at least, in the 1965-76 period). I parted out a 1965 Electra 225 4 door sedan and it did have a rear seat armrest but no front seat armrest.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shaffer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is a nice 73' LeSabre (base model). I do not recall seeing this large woodgrain panel on the doors of the base LeSabres. Kinda seems out of place on this particular car with the lack of lower door carpeting, non-color keyed belts and loop carpeting. The car certainly does not lack woodgrain accents on the inside. I have also noticed it has the standard 2-spoke hard plastic steering wheel, which as I have mentioned before seems so strange on a 73' Buick, considering that even the entry-level 73' Chevrolet Bel-Air has a custom-cushioned steering wheel. Seems like a fairly low optioned car, with only A/C and AM radio as interior options. Outside is nice optioned with vinyl top, side trim, bumper gaurds/strips, etc. I just hope that this one does not even up in a derby either like the 73' Centurion.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1973-Buic...1QQcmdZViewItem </div></div> The 1974 base LeSabre model had the same door panels as the base 1973 but the 1974 seats were more similar to those of the 1973 LeSabre Custom with the standard interior (the Centurion-like interior was available at extra cost in 1973 on the LeSabre Custom, it became standard in the 1974 LeSabre Luxus).

I used to have an aftermarket one from Cars but I didn't like how it looked. It was certainly more solid than the original as I traded it with a friend who had a broken engine mount on his Riv and the fan blades were hitting the fiberglass shroud from Cars. Nothing happened to the shroud, the original one would have been destroyed instantly! I have replaced it with another used original since as I had a front end accident 5 years ago... The next fan shroud will be the 4th fan installed on this car since I got it in 2000. And before the spring of 2003, the car didn't even have a fan shroud as it didn't have A/C! In a few days, I should have two used fan shrouds for it.

Tonight, the fan shroud in my Riv was destroyed after the cheap aftermarket fan clutch bearing went bad... The radiator now has a big hole in it, the fan blades are severely bent and the car needed to be towed I think I'll have the rad recored this week and I just bought another fan clutch on eBay (has "made in USA" written on it, I hope it's better than the one I had. Anyway, I have 3 original ones and neither seems very good! If someone has a plastic fan shroud that fits my car, please email me at phil.racicot@gmail.com or reply to this topic. Thanks