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I believe that this is a 1917 or so Olds V8 engine


Blueabbott

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I looked in the big Crestline Olds book and there are some pictures of the early V-8s but they're not great. From what I can see,yours looks more like a 16 than a 17 or 18 based on the way the headers come off of the exhaust manifolds but don't take it to the bank. 16 was the first year as you probably know. 

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That's a Northway V8. They were used in a few different cars. I've got one out of a Cole.

 

It's an interesting design with a block that splits in two. The Cole version had separate intake (aluminium) & exhaust (cast iron) manifolds.

 

I think Northway changed to a centre mounted water outlet in 1916 or 1917.

 

Can you locate the serial number? Its location should be marked in the first picture below.

 

Can you take a few more photos, in particular of the front engine pivot?

 

ColeAero8.jpg.0645957126ba2f6b746322aeeb136cce.jpg

 

 

 

ColeV81915.jpg.a90766de66224f90f80dea069d65674b.jpg

 

ColeV81918.jpg.5877f75839ea83cab107b0bbca549fa1.jpg

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Northway V8s were different depending on the car.  Cole’s version was completely their own design by Charles Crawford as shown in the post before my reply.  Northway also manufactured Cadillacs V8 and Oldsmobiles V8.  All three were different engines and Coles was the largest.  That one does look like the 16 Olds as mentioned and I believe they only had two main bearings.  I can’t recall though if all of the Olds years used the smaller 2 main bearing design.  

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On 5/6/2023 at 10:42 PM, John E. Guitar said:

That's a Northway V8. They were used in a few different cars. I've got one out of a Cole.

 

It's an interesting design with a block that splits in two. The Cole version had separate intake (aluminium) & exhaust (cast iron) manifolds.

 

I think Northway changed to a centre mounted water outlet in 1916 or 1917.

 

Can you locate the serial number? Its location should be marked in the first picture below.

 

Can you take a few more photos, in particular of the front engine pivot?

  John E. Guitar The engine number appears to be 593.  I have attached some additional photos.

On 5/6/2023 at 10:42 PM, John E. Guitar said:

 

ColeAero8.jpg.0645957126ba2f6b746322aeeb136cce.jpg

 

 

 

ColeV81915.jpg.a90766de66224f90f80dea069d65674b.jpg

 

ColeV81918.jpg.5877f75839ea83cab107b0bbca549fa1.jpg

 

OLDS V8 BLOCK NUMBER 2.jpg

OLDS V8 BLOCK NUMBER 3.jpg

OLDS V8 FRONT.jpg

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Been there. Done that. Can't remember? 🙃 It does look similar to the 1916 Olds I worked on many years ago. The finer details however have faded with time. However, here is a link to some photos of one that was up for auction a while back.

1916 Oldsmobile Model 44. https://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/oldsmobile/model-44/1916/188388

 

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22 hours ago, Blueabbott said:

  John E. Guitar The engine number appears to be 593.  I have attached some additional photos.

 

OLDS V8 BLOCK NUMBER 2.jpg

OLDS V8 BLOCK NUMBER 3.jpg

OLDS V8 FRONT.jpg

Blueabbott, thank you for taking the photos. The motor I have is missing the items on the front of the timing cover so it's good to see what should be there.

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