Arty Condito Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 I'm trying to find any info for a Flanders 20 1910. I would like to know how coil box is wired to mag and other connections to it and the coil box says mag or batt did it have a battery and if so where was it stored? is the item in the coil box a coil and if so does it look complete I don't see any points also at the bottom side of box I see 3 connections but no wires to them should it be wired and if so to what ? thanks so much for any help if possible, the car has not run for 60 years and I just don't know much about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cudaman Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Here is a wiring diagram and an explanation of the system from a period book. The firing order is the same as a Model T Ford, 1-2-4-3. The low tension Splitdorf magneto (mine is a Model F) sends a low voltage AC signal to the coil box, which steps up the voltage and sends it back out to the distributor part of the magneto for distribution to the spark plugs. The original battery would have been a wooden box under the seat (or maybe in a metal box on the running board) with four 1.5 volt dry cells wired in series to give 6 volts. Note that neither battery terminal is grounded to the chassis, this is important! Both battery leads go to the coil box. Do not ground the battery to the chassis! The person that rebuilt my coil box with a modern coil and condenser (R.V. Anderson, RIP) told me to use a 12V lead-acid lawn tractor battery in place of the dry cells. My 1912 runs fine on battery or magneto. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arty Condito Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 Thank you Cudaman again and again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Arty, you should change the heading of your topic from the misspelled "Fladers" to "Flanders." We know what you mean, but your topic will show up in a search only if it is spelled correctly. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arty Condito Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 thank you John I had not noticed, I fixed it, good eye lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cudaman Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 By the way, you may notice the fan belt on my car. The Illustrated parts manual shows a linked leather belt. Don't bother trying to find a continuous belt that will fit over the fan and still be short enough to be set to the proper tension, you must be able to separate the belt and re-link it after it is fitted over the pulleys. I found the 3/4 inch wide leather strapping and belt links on Ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arty Condito Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 awesome I haven't tried to work too hard on running the Flanders I've mainly been working on the Maxwell Runabout it seems to run pretty good but now I'm trying to find an emergency brake pedal and working on top hardware for both cars I'm sure I'll have a zillion more questions on the Flanders thanks again for all your help. By the way can't find any storage for batteries, under front seat is full of gas tank maybe under back seat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 You could install modern rechargeable batteries in old cases. I have done this for old farm set radios. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cudaman Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 The battery fits under the seat on my Runabout, but I wanted a tool box anyway, so I put a wanted ad on the MTFCA classifieds and someone there offered this one. I had to shorten the box by two inches because it was too tall to allow the car's door to pass over it. I didn't want to drill more holes in my running board, so I bought a junky running board luggage rack, cut off the clamp-on mounting brackets, and bolted them to the bottom of the box. The Flanders illustrated parts manual shows that some cars came with a metal box on the running board for the batteries. It looks nearly identical to the one I found for my car (minus the clamps). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arty Condito Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 beautiful car I'm very envious lol thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flivverking Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 I have the(a) small running board box for a Battery or for vintage size (3 or 4) modern dry cell no.6 reproduction ignition/telephone batteries if you need a box? 50. Bucks Plus shipping 14-3/4 wide,x 9-1\4" tall X 7-3/4" wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mark Gregush Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 cudaman's journey; Lost My Mind - Bought a Flanders 20 (Model T Competitor) - MTFCA Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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