feastersss Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) New to me, just purchased this last week and excited to get it going. 2 owner car that went to the body shop over 25 years ago to be freshened up and was never on the road after that, missing a couple items that I'm hoping to find soon and have it on the road by next spring. Edited November 16, 2021 by feastersss (see edit history) 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Got some cleaning to do there but what you have looks very close to original. Even the carburetor looks to be the correct era which is a bit unusual. You even have the original vacuum operated automatic clutch. The engine is totally the wrong color but that is easily fixed. Likewise the correct hose clamps are available and easily changed. I don’t see quite enough of the brake master cylinder to know if that is correct but it could be. Some judges in the Plymouth Owners Club might object to the air cleaner. The early cars and/or marketing photos show a helmet style air cleaner but lots of 33 Plymouths I have seen have your air filter and have no reason to believe they weren’t original. Only thing wrong with it that I can see is that you have the wrong end facing forward. If you look carefully at the side you have facing the firewall you will find the word "front". Steele rubber should have the rubber parts you need for the gas filler spout, spare tire holder and rear bumper arms. You may find my vanity site at https://www.ply33.com/ of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Looking a bit more. . . The temperature gauge fittings look odd. Looks like there is an adaptor there for feeding water to a heater. Is/was there a heater under the dash? By the way, the interior looks very original and in very good condition. You found a really nice car there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feastersss Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 Thanks for all the info, very helpful. I'm missing the wiper arm and the spare tire rod from what I can tell for now. I see a lot of Fords and some Chevys but rarely ever see the Plymouth cars which is odd considering I live in what used to be a very large Chrysler Manufacturing town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feastersss Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, ply33 said: Looking a bit more. . . The temperature gauge fittings look odd. Looks like there is an adaptor there for feeding water to a heater. Is/was there a heater under the dash? By the way, the interior looks very original and in very good condition. You found a really nice car there! I'm not to sure about the heater, I didn't look under the dash real close and I have it in a friend's barn right now. I was told the car only has 66K original miles, so I would assume the interior is original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feastersss Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, ply33 said: Got some cleaning to do there but what you have looks very close to original. Even the carburetor looks to be the correct era which is a bit unusual. You even have the original vacuum operated automatic clutch. The engine is totally the wrong color but that is easily fixed. Likewise the correct hose clamps are available and easily changed. I don’t see quite enough of the brake master cylinder to know if that is correct but it could be. Some judges in the Plymouth Owners Club might object to the air cleaner. The early cars and/or marketing photos show a helmet style air cleaner but lots of 33 Plymouths I have seen have your air filter and have no reason to believe they weren’t original. Only thing wrong with it that I can see is that you have the wrong end facing forward. If you look carefully at the side you have facing the firewall you will find the word "front". Steele rubber should have the rubber parts you need for the gas filler spout, spare tire holder and rear bumper arms. You may find my vanity site at https://www.ply33.com/ of interest. What color should the motor be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feastersss Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 What color should the motor be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, feastersss said: What color should the motor be? Silver with black accessories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
familyangel Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Keiser31 in an old post you said your g’father was Joseph Braun- that’s my great grandfather. I stumbled onto this forum, no idea how it works. Can’t send a personal message so I’ll put this out there. You may be able to get in touch since you’ve posted a lot of content- would love to chat. Btw, I agree, the engine should be silver with black accessories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feastersss Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, keiser31 said: Silver with black accessories. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, familyangel said: Keiser31 in an old post you said your g’father was Joseph Braun- that’s my great grandfather. I stumbled onto this forum, no idea how it works. Can’t send a personal message so I’ll put this out there. You may be able to get in touch since you’ve posted a lot of content- would love to chat. Btw, I agree, the engine should be silver with black accessories. I will private message you. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, keiser31 said: Silver with black accessories. Not quite, that would be for slightly newer cars. See https://www.ply33.com/Backmatter/EngineColor 3 hours ago, feastersss said: Thanks for all the info, very helpful. I'm missing the wiper arm and the spare tire rod from what I can tell for now. I see a lot of Fords and some Chevys but rarely ever see the Plymouth cars which is odd considering I live in what used to be a very large Chrysler Manufacturing town. Standard Trico wiper arm and blade. I'll have to measure mine to see how long, but I know I got my current ones from a vintage Ford supplier (Ford used Trico too for at least a while). Rod from spare tire holder to frame (goes through body behind rear seat) is simply a rod threaded at both ends. Shouldn't be too hard to fabricate. I believe I got the grommet for where it goes into the body from Steele Rubber but it is a very standard looking grommet and you could probably find a suitable one at a local hardware store. The vintage cars you see now are based largely on how popular they have been with collectors over the recent decades. Ford and Chevy have larger followings than Plymouth or other Chrysler products. That is also reflected in the prices, for the same vintage, body style and condition your Plymouth will have a much lower market value than the Ford or Chevy. One thing in favor of the 1933 and later Plymouths is that Chrysler settled on a good design and kept things largely the same for decades after that. There are differences from year to year, and 1933 being the first of the six cylinders has more differences than later cars. But even there you can get nearly all your wear related mechanical parts at your local better auto supply store as long as you know what the cross references are. That is one reason I created the database at https://www.ply33.com/Parts/numeric as it is how I keep track of what modern part numbers I need to ask for when getting things for my car. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, ply33 said: Not quite, that would be for slightly newer cars. See https://www.ply33.com/Backmatter/EngineColor Standard Trico wiper arm and blade. I'll have to measure mine to see how long, but I know I got my current ones from a vintage Ford supplier (Ford used Trico too for at least a while). Rod from spare tire holder to frame (goes through body behind rear seat) is simply a rod threaded at both ends. Shouldn't be too hard to fabricate. I believe I got the grommet for where it goes into the body from Steele Rubber but it is a very standard looking grommet and you could probably find a suitable one at a local hardware store. The vintage cars you see now are based largely on how popular they have been with collectors over the recent decades. Ford and Chevy have larger followings than Plymouth or other Chrysler products. That is also reflected in the prices, for the same vintage, body style and condition your Plymouth will have a much lower market value than the Ford or Chevy. One thing in favor of the 1933 and later Plymouths is that Chrysler settled on a good design and kept things largely the same for decades after that. There are differences from year to year, and 1933 being the first of the six cylinders has more differences than later cars. But even there you can get nearly all your wear related mechanical parts at your local better auto supply store as long as you know what the cross references are. That is one reason I created the database at https://www.ply33.com/Parts/numeric as it is how I keep track of what modern part numbers I need to ask for when getting things for my car. I stand (sit) corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, feastersss said: Thanks I have been corrected by a pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, keiser31 said: I have been corrected by a pro. Not sure I am a pro but will admit to having owned my 1933 Plymouth Deluxe (PD) two door sedan for 48 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, ply33 said: Standard Trico wiper arm and blade. I'll have to measure mine to see how long, but I know I got my current ones from a vintage Ford supplier (Ford used Trico too for at least a while). Looks like the arm and the blade are both 7.5 inches on my car. But looking online I only see 7 1/4 inch so maybe that is it. One source for the wiper arms: https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/product.htm?pid=977089&cat=0 One source for the blades: https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/product.htm?pid=977076&cat=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feastersss Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 Thanks for all the help and information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyred Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) Nice find! My family and I enjoy our '33 PD 4 door and I have learned a lot from this forum. These cars definitely get peoples attention and are fun to drive. Unfortunately, the clutch just went out on mine and beginning the tear down on that now. Once you have time and if you would be willing, I would be interested in seeing more pictures of the original upholstery. At some point, I will have to redo mine and would like to get as close to original as possible. Good luck and enjoy!! Edited November 23, 2021 by Crazyred (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Crazyred said: Nice find! My family and I enjoy our '33 PD 4 door and I have learned a lot from this forum. These cars definitely get peoples attention and are fun to drive. Unfortunately, the clutch just went out on mine and beginning the tear down on that now. Once you have time and if you would be willing, I would be interested in seeing more pictures of the original upholstery. At some point, I will have to redo mine and would like to get as close to original as possible. Good luck and enjoy!! Kathy Schrack in Pennsylvania makes interior kits for these cars that are very close to original. She usually has an ad in the Plymouth Bulletin (the magazine for the Plymouth Owners Club). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Bryan Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 I have a large stock of trico wiper blades and arms from the 1920's through the 1970's. And I have an extensive library of trico books complete with exploded diagrams for nearly every make and Model car that they produced parts for . The correct length arm is a P-1221- 7 1/2" in length and the correct blade is 7 1/4" . I have these i n NOS condition . If you need any other help , you can call me at 407-865-4851 ---Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31plymouth Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 11/16/2021 at 8:42 PM, keiser31 said: Silver with black accessories. Isn't it a black block with "silver dome" (head)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 6 hours ago, 31plymouth said: Isn't it a black block with "silver dome" (head)? Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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