Silverstreak36 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) I have recently purchased a beautiful 1936 Canadian made Pontiac Silvestreak (I think DeLuxe) 6 cylinder all original. I have two problems,1) I'm trying to find the motor ID as I was told it is not the original motor, I have the original sitting in my garage.Here is what I have found.On the front corner driver side just below the valve cover is the following numbers 517139On the valve cover is the numbers what looks like a C 512119On the lower part of the passenger side below the starter is the markings J 14 2On the valve covers is written gm4I was told this was a crate motor bought in the 1970's but I don't know what year is it.Problem 2 when the car is left idling for a while then turned off, then turned on again, my coolant boils over and spews out of the filler cap. It is green coolant prestone all models all years. Temp gauge reads 190.Thank you I am new on these so I'm learning. see Google drive photos that may help Pontiac 36 Edited July 22, 2021 by Silverstreak36 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverstreak36 Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 Here is the link to the photos https://photos.app.goo.gl/NLT9Fc5tAcea5eFfA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PONTIAC1953 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 J 14 2 should be November 14th 1932 for the block casting date making the engine block a 1933 Pontiac engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kornkurt Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 There were no 6 cylinder engines made in 1933. Also, any Pontiac engines 1938 and older had an Indianhead cast in the side of the block. The part number starting with 512 like is on the head started in the 1950 area. There are other clues such as the dip stick and oil filler pipe that are obviously much newer. I'm guessing it is a replacement engine made in the early 50's. If it runs good, be glad you have it. Your radiator problem is probably caused by over filling. You are only supposed to fill to the petcock level on the side of the radiator. Check you owner's manual for filling instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverstreak36 Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 I was told it was indeed a crate motor from the 50 era jut trying to figure out year. And no you are right it is not a Pontiac motor but a chev motor. Thanks I'll look into that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kornkurt Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 It is a Pontiac engine. Chevrolet never made flathead engines like that. If it was indeed a crate engine, it will be hard to determine exactly what year it was built. Did you check your owner's manual about filling the radiator? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Yes, its a Pontiac engine. I'll guess 1954 because it appears to have a 2 barrel carburetor (does it?), but that would only be conclusive for the manifolds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john hess Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 #2 .... issue I see is no fan shroud... boil over also from over filling.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kornkurt Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Yes, it is a 2 barrel carb, but the manifold would not come with a crate engine. I'll bet it is a 1953 or 1954 engine out of a car. Those were the only 2 barrel carb 6 cylinder models. Like I said before, if it runs good be glad you have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john hess Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 if you can provide the carb # from the small triangle brass tag, that would also help to narrow down engine year... I also agree around 53-54..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverstreak36 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 I'll check that up and let you know today I discovered a troubling scene. My sending unit for fuel tank is shot , now to find a replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) I had to rebuild mine. It was a bit of work. Nice having a gas gauge though. Bob's Automobilia (Buick Parts) has sealed cork floats. You'll probably need a couple of those once the sending unit works. There must be someone who rebuilds these professionally but I don't know who it is. Edited July 27, 2021 by Bloo (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kornkurt Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 The John Wolfe Co in Ohio 440-942-0083 ::JOHN WOLF and CO.INC :: Willoughby, restoration of speedometer, tachometer, Automobiles ,Aircraft ,Boats ,Custom Instrumentation Gas Tank Sending Units, Mechanical Temperature Gauges (antiqueinstrument.com) does a good job on rebuilding sending units. They have done sending units for two of my cars. Give them a call. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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