dr914 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I have three rechromed spears and a very nice used shift console base plate if anyone needs them and wants to make a reasonable offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cannon Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Those are very nice, George. FYI to any potential buyer, Buick moved the mounting clip positions out toward the ends of the spears in '64. These will not work on a '63 because the holes are in the wrong place, and were not used on the '65. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr914 Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 Thank you for the clarification Jim, always thought that they were all the same. There are no part numbers on the parts, but all three look identical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just an FYI...there is a Buick service bulletin which instructs the technicians to create a new hole when necessary if installing the updated part. If that`s the way they did it back in the day why not now? Tom Mooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrownedRiv Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 The prong spacing for the last two is different for top and bottom on the 64. Narrower spacing for the top, wider spacing for the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abandg Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 George, there is a part number on the back. The last three numbers on each are 162 and 163. The re chrome might have dulled them. Hope all is well. Gene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 hours ago, DrownedRiv said: The prong spacing for the last two is different for top and bottom on the 64. Narrower spacing for the top, wider spacing for the bottom. Yes, there is a top and bottom which fit the contour of the body...but there was also a change in the prong location for each...cant recall if the prongs were changed on both top and bottom or just one but common sense would dictate it was both. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrownedRiv Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 On my 64, only the last two prongs have different spacing...this pic shows it better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, DrownedRiv said: On my 64, only the last two prongs have different spacing...this pic shows it better... Yes, that is the difference between top and bottom but notice the last prong on each is at the end of the molding...the first/early versions of the moldings had the end prongs located away from the end which allowed car wash brushes, etc to grab the molding ends and break them off. The second/later versions moved the prongs to the end of the moldings. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrownedRiv Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Got it, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 There are four distinct part numbers for a complete set of four horse shoe moldings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, RivNut said: There are four distinct part numbers for a complete set of four horse shoe moldings. Ed, I dont think that is correct. My recollection is the top moldings are interchangeable left to right and the bottom moldings are interchangeable left and right. That would be two part numbers to service both sides. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, 1965rivgs said: Ed, I dont think that is correct. My recollection is the top moldings are interchangeable left to right and the bottom moldings are interchangeable left and right. That would be two part numbers to service both sides. Tom I have a few sets for both 63 and 64. For whatever reason, I was thinking that Gene G. told me that bit of info. Thinking about it, it could be that there are four numbers, two for 63 and two for 64. I'll take a look tomorrow (if I can remember where I stashed them.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abandg Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Ed, now you got it. There are four different numbers. Two for 63 and two for 64. The only difference is the location of the first spade. They both have nine spades. The reason I was told or read I do not remember. The 63 moldings had the first spade a little further back on the molding. When washing or drying the car a rag would slip behind the molding and break it, hence in the 64 model the first spade was placed at the tip of the molding. I hope this helps. Gene. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 9 hours ago, RivNut said: I have a few sets for both 63 and 64. For whatever reason, I was thinking that Gene G. told me that bit of info. Thinking about it, it could be that there are four numbers, two for 63 and two for 64. I'll take a look tomorrow (if I can remember where I stashed them.) Yes, that makes sense. Note also that there is a distinction between "casting" numbers and "part" numbers. A casting number appears on the part itself and a part number is a listing in a parts book. Sometimes the numbers are the same but most often they are not. Sometimes the numbers are close and other times there is no similarity. Ed, my guess would be that in this thread you are referencing casting numbers which appear on the part...and not the actual part numbers. I`m curious to find if Buick changed the part number when the parts were revised. Sometimes when they revise a part they will carry on the same part number and other times a new part number supercedes the original. It would be interesting to know what logic drove the part numbering system....if any, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 For the benefit of anyone considering installing George`s moldings on their `63 attached is the `64 Buick service bulletin outlining the procedure. Tom Mooney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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