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The rear wheel arch looks to be quite far forward for a body of this type so I would think it was built for a comparatively short W.B. You are probably near the mark with your 104 -110 in W.B. request. It looks like quite a nice body. Do you have any idea of what chassis it was built for ? Being Portland built is even more interesting, can't be too many others except perhaps the odd Hearse .

 

Greg in Canada

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the wheelbase is relative to the hood length I suppose, the approx center of the rear axle to the firewall is around 73", I could lengthen the front floor area fairly easily. No idea what chassis it was built for, the company just built bodies, I did find an ad for a body they built on a Chalmers chassis, they were out of business by 1914.

http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/b/belmore_macdougall_moores/belmore_macdougall_moores.htm

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14 hours ago, George Albright said:

http://classicvehicleslist.com/other-makes/251704-1913-white-motor-company-speedster-project.html      1913 White chassis for $9,800. Cut chassis to length and maybe add smaller rims. Good luck,George Albright  gnalbright@gmail.com

 

I believe I have a White frame that it is identical to the one in the above listed chassis. Although mine is not for sale, I'd be happy to measure mine if you think the one listed above might work for your body. I don't have springs or axles under it so unfortunately I can't give you the wheelbase, but the frame itself is just under 16 feet long.

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Here you go!  On www.hcca.org  cars for sale. Price is asking $16,500. George Albright

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1911 Buick with Speedster Body

Contact: David Groh

(517)676-4416     Email Me

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Side view. Rust free car
 
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Great compression, overhauled lat 70's
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Wrong fuel tank, have the original.
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Dusty but cleans up well
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BUICK SPECIFICATION CHART. Look they built a limo in 1911! George Albright

Year Prod
Total
Model
Designation
Wheel
base
Inches
Weight
Min/Max
Tire
Size
Wheel
Bolt
Pattern
Valve
Location
Bore
and
Stroke
Piston
Dis
place
ment
Cubic
Inches
Com
pres
sion
Ratio
(Stan
dard)
Maximum
Brake
H.P.
@
R.P.M.
Spark
Plug
Size
Spark
Plug
Gap
Point
Gap
Firing
Order
Ignition
Timing
BTDC
or
Mark
Grnd
+/-
Volts
1904 27 2 cyl B Early 83 1675 28x3 Hub In Head 4.5 x 5 159 4.5 15 @ 1200 1/2" NPT .031-.035   12    
8 2 cyl B Late 83 1700 30x3.5 Hub In Head 4.5 x 5 159 4.5 22 @ 1230 1/2" NPT .031-.035   12    
1905 750 2 cyl C Touring 87 1850 30x3.5 Hub In Head 4.5 x 5 159 4.5 22 @ 1200 1/2" NPT .031-.035   12    
1906 1,207
193
2 cyl F Touring
G Roadster
87 1850
1800
30x3.5 Hub In Head 4.5 x 5 159 4.5 22 @ 1200 1/2" NPT .031-.035   12    
1907 3,362
535
2 cyl F Touring
G Roadster
87 1850
1800
30x3.5 Hub In Head 4.5 x 5 159 4.5 22 @ 1200 1/2" NPT .031-.035   12    
523
36
4 cyl D Touring
H Touring
102.5 2250 32x4 Hub T Head 4.25 x 4.5 255 4.5 30 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
69
13
4 cyl S Roadster
K Roadster
106.5 2000 32x4 Hub T Head 4.25 x 4.5 255 4.5 30 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
1908 4,002 4 cyl 10 Roadster 88 2000 30x3 Hub Head 3.75 x 3.75 165 4.5 22.5 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
3,281
219
2 cyl F Touring
G Roadster
92 1850
1800
30x3.5 Hub In Head 4.5 x 5 159 4.5 22 @ 1200 1/2" NPT .031-.035   12    
543 4 cyl D Touring 102.5 2250 32x4 Hub T Head 4.25 x 4.5 255 4.5 30 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
373 4 cyl S Roadster 106.5 2000 32x4 Hub T Head 4.25 x 4.5 255 4.5 30 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
402 4 cyl 5 Touring 108 3700 32x4 Hub T Head 4.625 x 5 336 4.5 40 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
1909 3,856
144
2 cyl F Touring
G Runabout
92 1850
1800
30x3.5 Hub In Head 4.5 x 5 159 4.5 22 @ 1200 1/2" NPT .031-.035   12    
8,100 4 cyl 10 92.5 2250 32x4 Hub In Head 3.75 x 3.75 165 4.5 22.5 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
497 4 cyl 16 Roadster 112 2620 34x4 Hub In Head 4.5 x 5 318 4.5 32.4 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
2,003 4 cyl 17 Touring 112.5 2000 34x4 Hub In Head 4.5 x 5 318 4.5 32.4 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
6 4 cyl 6A Roadster 113 3700 32x4 Hub T Head 4.625 x 5 336 4.5 40 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
1910 4,000 2 cyl F Touring 92 1850 30x3.5 Hub In Head 4.5 x 5 159 4.5 22 @ 1200 1/2" NPT .031-.035   12    
10,998 4 cyl 10 92.5 1730 30x3 Hub In Head 3.75 x 3.75 165 4.5 22.5 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
4,000 4 cyl 19 Touring 105 2790 32x4 Hub T Head 4.25 x 5 255 4.5 28.9 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
2,252 4 cyl 16 112 2620 34x4 Hub In Head 4.5 x 5 318 4.5 32.4 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
6,002
40
4 cyl 17 Touring
41 Limo
112.5 2790
3400
34x4
36x4.5
Hub In Head 4.5 x 5 318 4.5 32.4 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
85 4 cyl 7 Touring 122 3700 36x4 Hub T Head 4.625 x 5 336 4.5 40 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
1911 3,300 2 cyl 14 Roadster 79 1500 30x3 Hub In Head 4.5 x 4 127 4.5 14.2 1/2" NPT .031-.035   12    
1,150 4 cyl 32 Roadster 89 1695 30x3.5 Hub In Head 3.75 x 3.75 165 4.5 22.5 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
1,000 4 cyl 26 Roadster 100 2100 32x3.5 Hub In Head 4 x 4 201 4.5 25.6 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
2,000 4 cyl 33 Touring 100 1855 30x3.5 Hub In Head 3.75 x 3.75 165 4.5 22.5 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
3,000 4 cyl 27 Touring 106 2280 32x3.5 Hub In Head 4 x 4 201 4.5 25.6 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
3,000 4 cyl 21 110 2610 34x4 Hub T Head 4.25 x 5 255 4.5 28.9 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
27 4 cyl 41 Limo 112.5 3400 36x4.5 Hub In Head 4.5 x 5 318 4.5 32.4 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
153
905
4 cyl 38 Roadster
39 Touring
116 2650
3225
36x4 Hub In Head 4.5 x 5 318 4.5 32.4 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
1912 1,400 4 cyl 34 Roadster 90.75 1875 30x3.5 Hub In Head 3.75 x 3.75 165 4.5 22.5 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
6,050
1,600
4 cyl 35 Touring
36 Roadster
101.75 2100
1950
32x3.5 Hub In Head 3.75 x 3.75 165 4.5 22.5 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
2,500
6,000
4 cyl 28 Roadster
29 Touring
108 2375
2600
34x3.5 Hub In Head 4 x 4 201 4.5 25.6 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
1501 4 cyl 43 Touring 116 3360 36x4 Hub In Head 4.5 x 5 318 4.5 48 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
1913 2,850
8,150
4 cyl 24 Roadster
25 Touring
105 2130
2335
32x3.5 Hub In Head 3.75 x 3.75 165 4.5 22.5 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
3,500
10,000
4 cyl 30 Roadster
31 Touring
108 2480
2600
34x3.5 Hub In Head 4 x 4 201 4.5 25.6 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
1,506 4 cyl 40 Touring 115 3360 36x4 Hub In Head 4.25 x 4.5 255 4.5 28.9 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243    
1914 3,126/239
13,446/1,544
4 cyl B-24 Roadster
B-25 Touring
105 2200
2400
32x3.5 Hub In Head 3.75 x 3.75 165 4.5 22.5 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243   -6
2,550
9,050
50
4 cyl B-36 Roadster
B-37 Touring
B-38 Coupe
112 2726 34x4 Hub In Head 3.75 x 5 221 4.5 35 1/2" NPT .031-.035 .025-.030 1243   -6
2,045 6 cyl B-55 Touring 130 3664 36x4.5 Hub In Head 3.75 x 5 331 4.5 48 18mm .025-.030 .020 153624 O Mark -6
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The 1911 Buick pictured looks like one of the smaller 4 cyl. cars, perhaps the 201 cu. in. model 26 ? If so it is perhaps a bit too small for the big closed body. The W.B. might only be 100" , a bit on the small size.  I am fairly sure it isn't a Model 38, they are quite rare and you probably would not get one in that sort of condition for $16,500.00.

As far as 1911 Buick's are concerned the best choice would probably be the model 21 which I believe is a 110 " W.B. 255 Cu. In. touring car.

 

Greg in Canada

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