playswithbrass Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I have recently purchsed a 1906 Model K cadillac roadster. On the side is Cadillac 1905 Museum of Transportation Princeton Mass which was owned by Salvator Galagino pre 1940 I am looking for photos and history for this car. Did it go to Zimmermans in PA ? It was supposedly displayed in a NewYork hotel lobby at one time. At some time it was owned by Jack Skaff in MI I know its ownership and location since 1980. Can anyone provide more details ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcarfudd Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I suggest yo post this request in two additional places:1. The HCCA website.2. The early Cadillacs yahoo group.Both of these sites cater more specifically to the people who might know something about your car. Good Luck! (I have an '07 Model K and drive it a lot.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 This is an interesting read:Www.princetonmahistory.org/places/auto-museum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playswithbrass Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 GThis is an interesting read:Www.princetonmahistory.org/places/auto-museum.Thanks for the interest is my car the 1905 or 1906 cadillac listed ? Does anyone have a photo of the museum displays ? Then where did it go when the museum closed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clincher Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Catalogue published by The Museum of Transportation, Princeton, Mass. copyright 1933 shows a 1906 or 07 Model M Touring Car, labeled 1905; but no Cadillac Roadster among the twenty or so cars pictured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_a Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) I looked at the inventory of cars on the link trimacar provided. This was quite a collection. I would take the 1900 De Dion Bouton, two 1902 Pierces, 1906 Peerless, 1909 Simplex, and the 1929 Duesenberg, if they hadn't had the auction 40 years ago.I've never heard of this museum in Massachusetts before. Apparently the founder started buying up these cars in the 20s or 30s. The early Cadillacs listed were: 1907, 1905, 1906, 1902, 1915, and two 1910s. Edited January 2, 2014 by jeff_a (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cben09 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 There were 3 or 4,,, 1 cyl Caddys just inside the front door on the right,,,Al had driven one up MtWashington,,,in a summer snow storm,,just after the warMany of these cars were lo milage examples,,,still with all white tyres,,one such was a Pierce,,'Great Arrow',,,,60Hp,,contrast to the Caddys,,Cheers,,Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playswithbrass Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 thanks for all the interest. I am still hoping for a photo of my car in the museum. I have also been digging around on Google and now know that Gene Zimmerman in Harrisburg PA bought everything from the Princeton museum after Alfred Garganigos death Are there any photos of the displays at his hotel? Any records of when his collection was disbanded ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cben09 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The cars were Al's,,,,,BUT a few were SulleysI have seen a booklet w/check or X marked against,,,Those were Sulleys cars,,Cheers,,Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playswithbrass Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 Ben is that booklet still around? do you have any pictures of the Cadillacs,trying to figure out what year it went into the museum.Was ita car that was to be scrapped and they ended up saving it.I know that Albert/Salvator was interested in the rapid body style changes and this prompted him to start the museum and with the scrap metal business he would have a captive supply in the early days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPrice Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Dear Playswithbrass,Congratulations on the purchase of your "new" Cadillac. I've always loved the styling of those '06 tulip bodies. Best of luck and I hope you can secure the information you seek. The HCCA is a good place to start.Rog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Hayhurst Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Hi RoryI didn't realize this was yours until today.Congratulations!How about some photos and a write-up for the website? Sounds like it has a fascinating history.Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playswithbrass Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Hi RoryI didn't realize this was yours until today.Congratulations!How about some photos and a write-up for the website? Sounds like it has a fascinating history.IanThanks Ian Not quite at that point! But after 2 wks of digging we now know that the car was originally shipped to Alvan Fuller in Boston Mass A man worth Googling, apparently had the most successful dealership anywhere in the 1920's. Not surprising because by the build sheets we got from GM Heritage Center he clearly was custom ordering in 1906. It was ordered without a top, and was dark blue with silver striping. So it never moved far to go to Princeton, Mass in the 1930s. We know that Gene Zimmerman bought out that museum "lock, stock and barrel " and Automobilorama was deemed by the State Tax authorities to not be commercially viable !! There is a wonderful write up on that museums opening in Antique Automobile, Vol 31 No 3. But between them, those two museums would have preserved some fabulous cars for todays collectors. Jack Skaff bought various cars out of that collection and James Crannie bought from him and now we have the Cadillac. But still no earlier photos !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cben09 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Zimmerman bought most of the museum,,Alberts cars,,,He did not buy the cars that belonged to brother Sulley,,Their sister insisted on her share,,thus forcing the saleCheers Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playswithbrass Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Zimmerman bought most of the museum,,Alberts cars,,,He did not buy the cars that belonged to brother Sulley,,Their sister insisted on her share,,thus forcing the saleCheers BenThanks for the correction and I admit I do not know if it was Arts or Sullys I was quoting from a Milwaukee newspaper article by a man who tried for a long time to get the circus wagon in the collection for the circus museum in Baraboo WI He followed it for quite a while and eventually I think got it from Gene Zimmerman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cben09 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 My info came from Sulley,,,Over pie and coffee in his kitchenCheers,,Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playswithbrass Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 cben09 I sent you a private e mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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