Dave Mellor NJ Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 This was posted on The Old Motor | Old car photos today. If anybody can ID the two cars on the left, please post it there as I am leaving for Hershey in the morningA very clear glass plate negative taken by George Fredrick Jenkinson, showing us what appears to be both a garage and the E.S. Cross Motor Painting shop, located in Hamilton Borough, New Zealand. The car on the left is an unknown, as is the small car in the mid-dle with its hood off. This car appears to be a substantially sized cycle car with possibly a v-twin engine. The on the far right are a Model T Ford with what appears to be a New Zealand made body-work and the car on the far appears to be an Essex which was made by Hudson.Hopefully our readers will be able to identify the two unknowns. Photo courtesy of Derek Finlay of New Zealand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stephen48 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 The licence plates on the Essex and Ford are regional plates and therefore pre- 1925 when national plates where introduced.Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stephen48 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I think the cycle car may be a Humberette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Someone may be able to enlarge the hub caps on the big tourer. They seem very clear/sharp from here. What a great pic.Manuel in Oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 60electra225 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I blew it up, but it doesn't look like it is a hub cap at all. Just a cap with a pin through it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 My guess on the left car is Buick 1917 D-35 with 5 lug nuts. Leif in Sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I also looked at this on The Old Motor. The only thing not quite right about the car on the left is the extra line around the body a few inches from the top. Maybe it is a Canadian one? I know we had Buicks from both Canada and the US in that era. It is unlikely to be locally bodied. I have only seen six cylinder roadsters of that era with local bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 The line around the body a few inches from the top seems quite common 1916-1923 in the Seventy Years of Buick Book.I don`t think it needs to be a Canadian built Buick in this case. Leif in Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Al Brass Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I answered this yesterday directly on the Old Cars site.The small cycle car is indeed a Humberette around 1914. The tourer on the left is what I reckon is a 1916 4 cylinder Buick (I think '17 models had a crown in the fenders?). The colonial bodied T Roadster carries and A registration so was registered in Auckland and the Essex 4 is around a '24 model. I will have to check where the "WP" registration belonged to. RegardsAl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erndog Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 The engine in the small car looks like it may be a V-4! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Al Brass Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 This model of Humberette had a V twin.Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 60electra225 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Not easy to get a close up - pretty low resolution photo, but this might give you a better view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Humberette:My books shows this model with the same gear change location. Probably the 11HP model. Made until WW1 costing 120 quid. A water cooled version was dearer.1913 from GB, air cooled 2 cyl in V formation. B and S 84 x 90mm, 998cc, side valves, HT maggy, 3 speeds, shaft and bevel drive, front transverse spring and rear 3/4 elliptics.This car looks like the air cooled version. So it is probably drivable as is. Though it appears to have been left in the long grass with the Mrs posing for the pic??HTHManuel in Oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Al Brass Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I have looked in my information for the WP registration on the Essex. It is listed as Waipa (Te Awamutu). This won't mean much to anyone by NZ'ers so I apologize for that.There is/was a very similar Humberette in Invercargill, owned by Jack Toomey.RegardsAl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I would say that the left car is a 1916 or and early 1917 D-35 4cyl Buick. I believe that those years had the flat/non crowned fenders. I have seen 1917 cars have both flat and crowned fenders and the 1918 cars have all had crowned fenders that I have seen. My observations, but there might others that have seen something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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