Guest imported_Speedster Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 There is presently a '34 1101 on eBay and one of the pictures of it shows a 'U' shaped piece of tubing mounted under car. Can anyone tell me what this assembly does??? I have some guesses, but not sure?See pic:http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Packard-P...1QQcmdZViewItem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I'm going to guess radio antenna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 My first guess was a TV antenna but it could be for radio. (Since it appears to be mounted in plastic insulator tubes and appears to have an rf-cable attached)An antenna could have been made so much simpler than that, tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Looks like the description says it is "..the original factory radio with the original antenna mounted under the passenger running board that still works..."Perhaps the seller is watching this forum, Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Wow, I don't think that was there when I first looked at it, but I hadn't had my coffee yet ! A '34 open with original '30s style radio-control-panel must be Very Rare! I doubt that antenna was Factory installed, tho. The pvc-tubing-insulator and coax-cable look much too new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 That looks like a period-correct radio, but I don't think it's the factory radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I was curious about a few things on that car. First, it says it has a tach, but I didn't see one on the dash. Were they even available on Packards?Is this the oil pump?Is this cannister under the left rear of the car a vacuum reservoir for the brakes?What a beautiful car. I have a kidney for sale, if anyone's looking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 What I noticed is wood graining that didn't appear to me to be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matt Harwood</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was curious about a few things on that car. First, it says it has a tach, but I didn't see one on the dash. Were they even available on Packards? </div></div>I don't know about 1934, but a tach was available in 1930, or at least it was on the speedster series. It was NOT an in-dash unit, however. It mounted to the steering column. I've only seen a couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matt Harwood</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What a beautiful car. </div></div>Yes, it is a beautiful car , but I'm not fond of the Circus-wagon Orange color, on a '34. The oil pump (on bottom) and fuel pump (on top) are one assembly, in lower right of pic.The oil cooler is the large green assembly in upper left of pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen_Dyneto Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Though a lovely and desireable car, there are several things that strike me as incorrect, based on over 40 years of familiarity with many 1934 Packards. (1) the radio head is not a 1934 Packard factory radio head. (2) The wood grain on the dash in incorrect, should be a burl grain. (3) the oil filter is most obviously incorrect, it should be a Purolator L-6, though an L-8 with adapter plates on each end is virtually indistinguishable. Of course correct-appearing filter housings with modern filters inside are readily available for several sources. The brake selector switch appears to be chrome plated but should be nickel plated, ditto for the oil filler cap. In fact all the plated engine trim should be nickel. Closed car antennas were below the roof batting, and open cars were under the running board, but at least parts of that antenna appear to be modern adaptations.None of this is offered to belittle the car, I'd love to own it. It's just that if we let these things pass unnoted, others may view them as correct and perpetuate the error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Well since we are picking the car apart... Take these with a grain of salt since I know 32s better...The fuel lines should be nickle plated. Though for these cars, I'm told PI judging accepts chrome plating. Back window looks incorrect. Missing the screens for the horns though not sure which way was factory stock.Crankcase breather on backwardsSeat pattern is wrong. Should have dual coils on top of engine head. Have coil mounted on side of engine block.Door panels need to have insert panels and not the just the pattern sewn on the leather.Water jacket bolts need to be painted.Also the clock time is incorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Man, Just a piece of Junk Isn't it. I Always did Love that kinda 'Junk', tho. and wish I had More of 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 O man I won't post pictures of my car anymore . Na I will because I know my car is going to be a nice looking driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest superods Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Which one owns the car>>>>>>> Barnum or Baily speedster>>>>????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: superods</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Which one owns the car>>>>>>> Barnum or Baily speedster>>>>????? </div></div> LOL My guess is B&B's Circus 'Clowns' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 No one has mentioned that it's not a phaeton. It's a touring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Packin31</div><div class="ubbcode-body">O man I won't post pictures of my car anymore . Na I will because I know my car is going to be a nice looking driver. </div></div>Tom,Just don't use wood grained contact paper for the dash and we'll leave you alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34PackardRoadsta Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Also, the pinstripe is incorrect.And yes, the canister is the vacuum brake booster.Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Man, Just a piece of Junk Isn't it. I Always did Love that kinda 'Junk', tho. and wish I had More of 'em. </div></div>However show me a 30's Buick or a Cadillac and I couldn't tell you what is right and what is wrong. Though the 30 Lasalle at the show I recently competed against had a bunch of polish stainless steel bolts which I know isn't correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I actually didn't find that color that bad, though I would reserve final judgement until I see it in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl B. Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I don't care for the body color or the fender color, and really don't think they go together at all... just my 2 cents worth...B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen_Dyneto Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 PS - not to be picky, but it's phaeton, not pheaton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 You are correct Wes. It's a Touring, not a Phaeton. Entirely different bodies, entirely different top irons and bows. Phaeton sounds more expensive I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tbirdman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tom,Just don't use wood grained contact paper for the dash and we'll leave you alone </div></div>No worries I have a good friend here that offered to help me out with doing it the right way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Restorer32</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are correct Wes. It's a Touring, not a Phaeton. Entirely different bodies, entirely different top irons and bows. Phaeton sounds more expensive I suppose. </div></div>Absolutely more expensive if it were a phaeton. I'd have to guess that the only reason a seller would misidentify a car is so that the novice will go to the value guide and look at values for phaetons rather than tourings. There is a super-big difference in values, because there is much more desirability for a phaeton. The phaeton is a much more sexy-looking body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Wow, tough crowd. When it's in my garage, I'll keep it under cover! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Restorer32</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are correct Wes. It's a Touring, not a Phaeton. Entirely different bodies, entirely different top irons and bows. Phaeton sounds more expensive I suppose. </div></div>Absolutely more expensive if it were a phaeton. I'd have to guess that the only reason a seller would misidentify a car is so that the novice will go to the value guide and look at values for phaetons rather than tourings. There is a super-big difference in values, because there is much more desirability for a phaeton. The phaeton is a much more sexy-looking body. </div></div>I wonder what the reseve is? Per the NADA giudes which I find more realistic, the high retail is $238K for a Phaeton and for a Touring it is $316K. Obviously a mistake. I would think the reserve would be in the 175K area.I found it interesting that the seller states that the wood graining is correct in his description of the car when in fact it stood out like a sore thumb.However I would buy it at the current bid of 82K and live with "all" of these problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matt Harwood</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow, tough crowd. When it's in my garage, I'll keep it under cover! </div></div>Yep life would be tough having an ugly Packard in your garage One of these days I'll take mine to a Packard meet to see how it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 KenDo I still get to ride with you on the Glidden Tour next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">KenDo I still get to ride with you on the Glidden Tour next year? </div></div>How and when do you sign up for that tour? I suppose the 12 Cadillac be the car to take on that tour. You are more then welcome to ride with me.By the way, I just decided to go to Hershey this year. I'll be there either Thursday or Friday and maybe for the show on Sat. I'll be staying with a friend about 90 mintes away in West Chester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 I don't think sign-ups start until AFTER the current year Glidden. In fact, I think that if you are on the Glidden, you get an application for the next year's tour before anyone else. I could be wrong and will check into that.However, if you know the right person and offer to lend him a certain Packard, your chances could improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't think sign-ups start until AFTER the current year Glidden. In fact, I think that if you are on the Glidden, you get an application for the next year's tour before anyone else. I could be wrong and will check into that.However, if you know the right person and offer to lend him a certain Packard, your chances could improve. </div></div>For some reason I keep seeing scenes from the "Godfather" flashing throuh my mind What is more appropiate for the Glidden, the 12 Cad or 32 Packard? Which would you take if you were in my shoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Glidden Tours are set up so that you go at your own pace. The folks driving in modern vehicles, such as your Packard, tend to "sleep in", while the older vehicle driver's are usually up and out of the hotel much earlier in order to be at the right place at the right time. I know that the people who take the pre-teen cars have an awful lot of fun, and they usually travel in packs. I like to get up and out early anyway, because I like to stop along the way if I see something that looks interesting.So, you take the Cadillac, I'll take the Packard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl B. Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 West, curiosity on my part---what is the cut-off year for the Glidden tour? thanks, B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 1942 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Glidden Tours are set up so that you go at your own pace. The folks driving in modern vehicles, such as your Packard, tend to "sleep in", while the older vehicle driver's are usually up and out of the hotel much earlier in order to be at the right place at the right time. I know that the people who take the pre-teen cars have an awful lot of fun, and they usually travel in packs. I like to get up and out early anyway, because I like to stop along the way if I see something that looks interesting.So, you take the Cadillac, I'll take the Packard. </div></div>West,We might be able to work something out...unless you want to stretch out on the back seat of the Cadillac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Theres a standard 8 for sale on Ebay. The guy must have been color blind when he picked the green for the motor. It's more St Patty's day green plus he painted the engine block. So I guess we can be too hard on the Phaeton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 KenIn my opinion, calling the car a "phaeton" is a huge deceiving issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 We have made many sets of top irons for Packard Tourings and Phaetons over the years. People (even Packard people) sometimes do not know that there is a difference, assuming any 4 door open car without roll up windows to be a phaeton. Wishful thinking at its best. If it has jump seats it's a touring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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