Brian_Heil

This is identical to the one on my 1923 Model 45. Excellent gears. Please send me an email to address in my signature.

I have just purchased a spark and throttle gear assembly that mounts to the bottom of the steering column. Excellent condition including gears. Identical including casting #s to the one on my 1923 Model 45. Anyone still looking for one?

Yay Jim and Jim Jr.!

This car has Larry Schramm written all over it. I have good friends from Timmonsville, which is not very large. The town made National news last year with this: "In 2016 the Timmonsville municipal government passed an ordinance banning people from having sagging pants with a penalty fine of $600.[4] It is known as Ordinance 543."

Pretty sure you hook the chain to the engine to pull it. But then, I don't know doo doo about doo dah.

I had a really nice chat with Tom this past Sunday. Wonderful gentleman, very helpful and lots of cars too. Seems all my HCCA buddies know of him as I chat with them this week. I need to get out more!

Thomas, Thank you for your post, I will be in contact with you. I know I speak for the entire BCA when I say we hope you join and we look forward to meeting you and you vehicles at the 2017 Meet and on the PWD After Tour as well.

I officially have more venues than you can possibly see in three days of PWD touring. So, in Pre War Division fashion, I will figure out routes to make them a la carte and attendees can pick and choose. Want to see them all? Well you can, but it may take a couple extra days. Fine with me. The directions and roads will still work Here's the list so far so you can do some surfing as you sit in front of your warm computer (single digits in mid Michigan right now) Thursday Night PWD Dinner / Get Together (need to figure this out still, any ideas for something interesting and not too far from Brookfield would be welcome. I've not worked on it yet.) and you don't have to be going on the After Tour to join us. Sunday as we travel to our PWD Tour Hub Town ~97 mi, plan is to stop at all 3 Holy Hill Basilica https://www.holyhill.com/ Octagon House, Watertown, WI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octagon_House_(Watertown,_Wisconsin Little Amerrika Amusement Park (1950's restored small local park, free admission, rides a la carte) http://littleamerricka.com/ Arrive DeForest, WI $till working on the best hotel in this area as our hub location Monday's Loop ~114 miles You can do both Circus World and the Railway Museum but it would be a long day to see both well. Free ferry crossing of the Wisconsin River http://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/travel/water/merrimac/history.aspx Circus World, Baraboo, WI Wagons are something, but busy, as it will have 'Dells' tourist load https://www.circusworldbaraboo.org/our-treasures/wagons/ Van Hise Rock (free!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Hise_Rock Mid Continent Railway Museum http://www.midcontinent.org/ Tuesday's Loop ~97 miles Taliesin House and Grounds - Frank Lloyd Wright Estate you could spend a whole day here, a bit pricey but amazing, several tour packages available. http://www.taliesinpreservation.org/ House on the Rock ~3 hrs https://www.thehouseontherock.com/HOTR_AttractionMain.htm And if you've been to both Taliesin and House on the Rock, there is Cave of the Mounds http://www.caveofthemounds.com/ Those that have been to any of these please comment. So far I have some very good routes planned, that are worth it, if all you want to do is go for a nice Tour on some great country roads with some good directions. In fact, the routes are such you can pick and choose what you want to see (or not see) and (maybe) still get home. Sorry if you wanted to see the world's biggest wad of gum, smelly shoe, dirty tub. Maybe next year. More to come on this as I firm up the hotel and determine interest so we can get a rough count. If you know you plan to Tour, please send me an email to the address below, so I can save it to a file and build an address list for more detailed instruction emails nearer the date. I will start a separate thread on the Thursday PWD Dinner once I have that figured out.

Have spoken with Terry several times over the Holidays on my valve cage rebuild project. He is well. He's just taking a break from the Forum is all.

And, you have only done a few short trips. This too can cause the plugs to load up. Do the tune-up items, clean the plugs and go for a good 45 minute ride and then inspect the plugs.

Thank you for the clear and quick response! And interesting you knew we were brining our son, he loves to tour. Picture of him and the wife enclosed. Doubt he has part of the $35 to help out though. He's always spending his allowance on treats. Kids these days.

I have a question on the Registration Form on the Bugle jacket and others may have it too, so I will post the question here. Does the BCA Members Registration Fee ($35) cover just me or does it cover me and the wife? The small print says: 'Includes Member/Spouse/Guest Participation . . .' but then the #______ line makes one think you need to possibly put a # greater than 1 on the blank? Same issue/question for the Non BCA Line. Thanks!

I would think you would be able to Tour just fine. Note my comments above on speed in my first/original post. 35 MPH +/- 5 MPH depending on vehicle and driver. How well does your 1927 run, can you maintain 30 MPH on a open road, and can you run ~100 miles on a Summer day with several stops? Contact me at the email in my Signature. Happy to help. Food for thought for others thinking about the Tour: It does take prep work. It's one thing to roll a car on and off a trailer and it's another thing to head out on a Tour. It's also a lot more fun to Tour. If you have never had your vehicle out for a 100 mile trip, I would strongly suggest you do that before the Meet/Tour for your own peace-of-mind and touring pleasure (and so you don't become stalled entertainment for the show field 'experts'), and so you are not spending the afternoon waiting for the flatbed to come and fetch you on Tour if we can't get you back on the road. Does it run well? Tuned? Lubed? Does it cool? Do all the fluids stay where they are supposed to and not leak out or boil over for a long day? Start hot? Is the fuel system clean and not plugged or full of rust and soon to plug/starve? Are your tires, lug nuts and brakes up to par? Front end shimmy? Lights? Battery? Are there cotter pins in all the places they are supposed to be? Tool kit, spares etc etc. Would you not hesitate to jump in it and drive 50 miles away from home? If you have never toured but want to start, start with a test loop route close to home and just keep making loops. That loop may be as short as around the block but as you shake out issues, you will expand that loop, but never be that far from home. Get it hot and make it work. I think I got 5 houses down the street with my car on my first trek. The guy I bought my car from drained the fuel tank and I never bothered to look once I got it home and off the trailer. I've seen cars roll off a trailer that have never been any further than around the block at home and full of 5 year old gas head out on a tour. They did not do well on the tour and the Tourist did not have as much fun as they could have. But we find them a rear seat so they find out just how much fun touring is and they go home inspired and do their prep work for next time. Pretty soon they are driving their Buick and smiling from ear to ear as they take all their friends for long rides. But then, if you know what you are doing, are a good mechanic, you can buy a car on the way to the Meet and then tour with it like Mark Shaw did in 2006 at Rochester, MN. He also worked on it for 3 days straight on the show field including mounting 5 tires and tubes and a new exhaust heat tube and a long list of other items to get it ready and he and the 1924 Buick did well. Remember, the folks smart enough to help you with an issue on a Tour, and they will, are also smart enough to know if you did your prep work before you left home.

Thanks John. I think you should also post on the 2017 National Meet thread, post about this Miller event and the Bug and see what you can generate there. I have no pull, I'm just a guy in a robe and PJs on vacation. Would be a neat destination for the entire Meet participants (say, Friday) but we need to stay focused on the After Tour here (and not screw up the National Meet plans either). If there is something there on Sunday, let us know, we could potentially visit on our way out of Dodge so to speak. You did make me think about another item to put on my to-do list and that is a PWD Dinner while in Brookfield. Not everyone goes on the After Tour. Mr. Shaw what night do we do that typically and what other stuff is there so we don't conflict? There is also the 'Online Luncheon' which I've never attended, Mr. Schramm please investigate that, has someone started a thread on it? Note my Power Move and delegation, ha. My thanks also to Mr. Moderator or Mr. Earl or whomever it was that made this thread a sticky at the top of the PWD Forum. We've 'made the big time'.

Good point. What year was it Buick made the big axle change? The axle shown looks just like the one in my '23.

No. But a car you can take on a nice shake down drive and can be verified it has been on recent tours before you buy it is worth a lot more than a non-running car with unknown issue and expense. They are two very different purchases is all I'm saying.

Vacuum fuel pump is missing too. Guessing they changed over to an electric pump which has potential issues of flooding since the needle/seat/float in the Marvel carburetor was never designed for electric fuel pump pressures. I've seen this car before in pictures somewhere. Same thought, that it looks too tall and perhaps a custom job or modification. But then, not that many closed cars from back then to have a good mental picture either. Not running will keep the price down. Question/gamble for the buyer is why is it not running?

It's that 1/2 inch diameter rod under the rear axle. It's there to keep from breaking the rear axle case on bad roads. It should be under light tension and touch the bottom of the differential in a cast groove in the bottom of the diff.. There is a large nut inside each brake housing to tension it but based on the large gap something is goofed up. Easy enough to fix, its just a threaded rod with a bend in the middle. Maybe the nut(s) have fallen off as a guess.

Gotta love Thiller posts. 14 topics in 30 seconds. Ha. We all look forward to seeing you and your family, however you end up getting to Wisconsin. Be safe. Winery Tour. I better find one within walking/crawling distance, Or for this group, a party store with a wine aisle could work. Pretty sure every town in Pennsylvania has a drive thru beer store so I was surprised the 2016 After Tour was not sold out so to speak. Good thing for us the former Head of the Wisconsin Tavern League is BCA PWD member. Never hurts to have well connected friends. Ice cream, beer, cheese. The food pyramid. I think that about covers it.

This discussion is going on over on the Pre War site. FYI Check it out and comment over there.

Now, we can get this party started! Maybe the 'Governor' can get us in to the Capitol? But, his Supper Club in Rhinelander is on my After-After Tour.

Truss bar under rear axle is not correct or not installed correctly.

These are good ones Mike but looking too far for our per day distance. With that said, anyone heading to/from the north or coming over on the Lake Michigan ferry could easily stop at both.

Thanks Larry. House on the Rock, Spring Green, WI / F. L. Wright and Cave of the Mounds are all on my short list. I have some others too, and growing. As we firm these up, I will select a centrally located hotel with good reviews and rates and several good food options near it. What I'm picking my brain on right now is a remarkable collection I visited with Bill McLaughlin several years ago when we caravanned to the BCA National in Rochester, MN. There was a collection in the little town of Friesland, Wisconsin. Anyone have a lead on who that was/is? I've sent Bill and email. Also need to contact Tony Bult in Whitewater with his 1928/29 collection and a possible visit or at least have him join us. He was featured in the October 2016 Bugle. Any Wisconsin BCA'rs out there with some venue ideas or has anyone gone on a (HCCA/AACA/VMCCA) Tour in that area? Stealing an existing route or at least list of venues is common. I have a good VMCCA buddy in the area I need to contact.

First question I just got in an email: Dirt Roads. No. Maybe a parking lot or a driveway but not planning on any dirt roads. We will stay to the minor paved routes. Wisconsin has some good ones. Most won't have center or edge lines.