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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LINC400</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I will not be buying the '56 Packard because everthing I have researched shows that he is asking $2K more than what the car is worth. I do not have that $2K, and if I did, I would want to spend it on restoring it, not an inflated price. </div></div> Trying to figure out price on old cars is tough. There is just not enough transaction to examine. You figure he's asking 2K too much. There is so much variables on old cars that his price could be right on the money. You may go buy a car that is $2K cheaper, and that money you saved could be easily exceeded by repair cost. I'm not saying that his price is correct but sometimes a sound car owned by a sound mechanic or collector is worth the little extra up front in the long run. There's a lot of crap out there for sale, so be careful and good luck on your hunting.

You don't want to consider these cars investments except that they will provide many hours of fun. The first year I had my 32, two guys were looking at my car and one turn to the other and said "having that in my garage would be a lot mor e fun than Cisco stock".

OK, I see where the meter vanes extensions need to rest in the center piece grove. Any one know the function of the the rod that the smaller spring attached to?

OK things did fly off Unfortunately also the repo was not a fit. So I got some questions to make sure I got it back together correctly. 1. The small spring that connects to a rod that goes through the body of the carb. Is that rod's only function is to be an attachment point for the spring? On the part of the carb opposite the bowl, there are two doors like items. The doors have extensions on them that appear to rest on the circular item that is the center. Looks like there are two flat spots on this item where this doors extension should fit. I surmise the operation is to control a set air flow at idle. Thanks for your help. Though I was not successful in replacing the top, I have a good idea how this carb now functions. The joy of learning.

What about Henry Yeska?

If you are doing 50, you should be in 4th gear, so you can downshift to 3rd because of the synchros. I never downshift to 2nd unless I'm at a stop. I only use 2nd thru 4th and get to 4th rather quickly after stating from a stop.

OK now that I have it back, what's the easist way to install it on the crankshaft? I hit a few times with a 20 lb hammer but it wouldn't go on...only kidding about the 20 lb hammer

I'm actually thinking of doing the carb job after I get everything back on the engine and successfully start the car. I hate to have another unknown throwned into the equation if I have trouble starting the car after my long winter project where I refurbed the engine compartment. Yes, I do not want any flying springs or screws turned that I should never had touched.

Ok, I got my reproduction top plate for my Detroit lubricator carb for my 32. Looking at the carb, it appears this is one of these things that could fly apart when I start removing items to replace the top plate I'm looking for some advice on the easiest way to accomplish the plate removal and installation.

What I had always thought was the 3 speed was introduced halfway through the model year but the light 8 and the twin six came out from the beginning with only a 3 speed. Not sure if mine is an early or late car though it was delivered late in the model year per the data plate. The three speed also was quieter.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Owen_Dyneto</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The 4-speed crashbox lasted thru 1931, though as correctly noted previously, low was so low that most folks never knew it was there. The very first few 32 cars (except the Light Eight) also carried over the 4 speed, though the new 3-speed synchro was introduced very early in the 9th series, and remained essentially the same thru 1938 and perhaps 1939 for those cars that didn't have the optional column shift. There are references in several of the Packard tomes to a 4-speed synchro also introduced very early in 1932 and dropped almost as soon as it was introduced. I've not checked the parts book for 32 to confirm that, but have run into one or two persons over the years who claimed to have original early 9th series seniors with a 4 speed with synchro on the top three. I remain a bit unconvinced on this, seeing would be believing (or confirmation from the parts book). </div></div> As I understood it from my Packard books, about halfway through the model year, 3 speeds were introduced. My 32 has a 4 speed with synch in 3rd and 4th gear.

Speedster, OK, here's a project that you can combine your boat building with your packard interest.

For once I know more than Speedster T-Bird's (at least 64s-66s) had a CVR mounted behind dash to supply a constant voltage to the gauges. Also the 12V regulator for the system I also believe was a switched mechanical regulator though relacement regulators are solid state.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedster</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I still say that those Auctions are Not really a good Indicator of what the cars are Really worth. They only indicate how much 2 guys are willing to pay, to out-do the other guy. It becomes like a Competitive Sport, they have to Win. </div></div> I agree with you however but if you study the prices, you see a definite upward trend. 4-5 years ago a very nice 32 Coupe roadster Deluxe 8 sold at an auction for about $175K. That price was considered outrageous and the result of multiple people wanting the car. Now we have one selling for $412K. Was it the result of a couple people bidding. Well of course but auctions pricing will tends to set pricing for the rest of the market. Did the 32 Twin six sale at over $600K in Jan set the market price for the super 8? On one other thought is that there are so few of these 32-34 open cars when is a sale not an isolated event?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: superods</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A 1933 Packard Super 8 Club Sedan listed for 37k in Hemmings. It had some issues according to the man at Victory Cars in Flordia who sold it last week for less than the asking price. Sooo ....according to the numbers you just gave us on open vs closed cars Birdman....that calculates to 215k "light". That price, in comparison, is not flat.... it is "squashed". I am just bummed I did not get there first !! </div></div> As an example of the extreme difference between open and closed cars now, a 1933 Super 8 Convertible Victoria just sold yesterday for $412K at RM auctions. This included the bidders 13% premium. Yes it was a very nice car, but it was not even a Twelve. I guess I need to up the insurance coverage on my 32. I am still finding a signicant difference with pricing between the stanard 8s and deluxe or super 8s as shown by this 32 Standard 8 coupe roadster the sold for "only" $148K.

This 41 Packard is for sale by one of our club members. Contact me if you are interested.

The weather in the past month as turned more mild which means I have to use the heater less. I can imagine those cold winters in Chicago. Hopefully I'm on the homestretch and will be done in two months.

No, I'm still working on my winter project.

After seeing you ships and the fine craftsmanship, this part of the project should be a snap

I know what you mean however this company was highly recommended by the local Packard guys. Of course that doesn't always help as I have experienced before, but at least you have some confindence.

Sent the dampener out Monday and Damper Dudes called today as it is finished. Total cost including shipping back is $215. The guy I spoke with said mine did need rebuilding.

This item was giving Pauls fit, and sat for awhile as the workers were discourage but it finally got through. The problem with chrome it cost the same no matter if it's high or low dollar car. The only thing you can do if you want to deduce cost is request less quality. Places like Paul will only do show chrome but some will do less than show for less money. What kind of prep work do you do to reduce the cost?

I wanted to share a positive experiences I have had with Paul's Chrome Plating I just got back the top for the battery box and great job. It had replated once by someone else but the job had issues with pitting in the grooves. It was a very difficult piece to do. They also did a very nice job on my plating next year. Had a small issue but was quickly resolved with a rework. Also the parts come back double boxed. All parts are phtographed when received and a contract must be signed before work starts. Only downside is Pauls requires payment up front. For those looking to do plating on a budget, Pauls won't be for you but excellent high quality work. This is not to knock any other plater, but just in case any one is looking at Paul's.

I follow the pricing of the pre-war open Packard especially 32-34 (because I own one) which have significantly risen in 2 years. 2 years ago a 32 Twelve roadster could be had for $250K. That is now the price of a Super eight. A 32 twelve just sold at an RM auction for $660K. I have not followed other years pricing as closely so my has blind spots. Speaking with a classic car dealer, he indicated that a new generation of buyers are looking for 32-34 open cars (and other open pre-war classic cars) which was driving the prices up. There seems not as much a demand for pre-war closed cars though which is keeping that pricing flat. The classic argument for muscle cars, is the are hot because that's what was hot in high school. For a 1932 car, the owner would had have to be 97 years old if he was in high school in 1932. So I think most of those have died off, while the prices continue to rise. I agree that they is a larger per capita demand for muscle cars, but there are a lot more of those cars. There's a lot less of these pre-war cars than muscle cars. Even the brass cars are in very high demand today. I went to an auction last year trying to "steal" some brass cars. They quickly soared over $100K and higher and these were #3+ cars.

Tom, I also want to wish for the best for your nephew and a successful recovery.