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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

The problem is and I'm guilty of it, when a rare part comes up for sale, it's multiple people bidding on it that drives up the price. Ebay I think has made finding parts easier but also has driven the price inflation. Maybe I'll should part out my 32 and buy a Dusie with the proceeds But ignoring the 34 V12 color, a repaint though not cheap, would be a fairly small investment for that car.

Has anyone noticed the 34 Packard parts on Ebay. Nothing cheap. If the seller gets the starting price on each of the items, he can buy another 34 Packard with the proceeds I also was curious why the bidding on the 34 V12 Phaeton did not reach the buy now price which I thought was under market by about 100K. Incorrect engine numbers or fake?

However, you must also keep in mind that if you paintthe car, then that chrome and the interior is going to look bad, and now you spend even more money. Been there, done that.

West, I hadn't thought of that but I agree. Last year, my Packard had stalled. As I was troubleshooting it, an ex-neighbor of mine pulled up behind the car and stopped to help. He being a car guy and knowing me from my from a few years back, was surprised at my troubleshooting skills that I had gained.

Yes, Speester you seem to be awful fast at what you do. However I did receive a good compliment from a local Packard restorer who told others that my work was excellent though slow, and that I could do just as good work as him The only thing I would say in addition to doing the work yourself vs. contracting it out, is the sense of pride have when someone asks who did the work. Iif the resulting resulys weere good that is)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedster</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I've always painted my own cars, So for me, that's the Only option. A 35 year old compressor and $15. spray-guns from Harbor-freight, gets the Job Done. Even if you Screw-up the first couple of tries, eventually you'll get it looking good enough and you've Saved Thousands of dollars. But it does Take time and a little work. </div></div> Seems with me it's a lot of time and a lot of work. I spent two weeks just woring on the spash pans.

Looks like the movement is between the base of the distributor and the clamp.

On my 32, I put the distributor back on the car. I have tighten it down (3 screws on the bass and the clamp bolt). There seems to some movement in the distributor if you push it from side to side. Not a lot but some. I know the distributor was rebuilt just a few years because of excess play. I don't remember any movement when I took it off. I have the clamp tighten well, and the distributor won't turn. Is this normal?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Packin31</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ken, Some answerers to your powder coating question. I am a member of this site. Very knowledgeable people there. Painting over powder coating </div></div> Well finsih paintingthe splash pans and they came out real nice. Installed the hood lace for the engine seal area. Question regarding how you instalkl them. Does the front pan go on first on vice versa. Trying to figure out how they lay as one will overlay on the other. Also, the short C shape piece on the left side that circles the oil gauge box. Does that go next to the frame then the splash pan or the other way.

I'm looking for a compression fitting nut that goes on the oil line that runs from the oil line junction at the rear of the engine up to the connector that goes through the firewall. The nut is 7/16-20 and 1/2 tall. I'm trying the usual suspects but have not found or heard from anyone.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Owen_Dyneto</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The fitting has a restriction in it, but no check valve. </div></div> I'm trying to redo this lfirst line but I have an issue. Do you know where to get one of those fittings. I'm have difficulty loosening the male connector from the special fitting as it has no surface which to put a wrench on.

I hope I don't have any issue as I put it on dry. Per the supplier, Olsen, either way is fine. Great that your is working now with no leaks. You do work fast I have to day.

Thought you guys might be interested in a story about the effort to put a 37 back on the road.

Jay Fisher Acken Drive 4-B Clark, NJ 07066 732-388-6442

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Actually, the 1932 Packard is the one that I submitted. As I said, I just made suggestions as to what should be on the list. The editor, Dennis Adler, then took my list and several others, and made his own decision as to which ones to include. We had no say after that. I don't even know why he gave us credit. And the values were done afterward. I had no idea he was going to do that. I think he opened up a can of worms with that one. I'd hate to be fielding all the letters he'll be getting. </div></div> Here's the car for you at the RM Auction Only $500K-750K auction estimate.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tbirdman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Restorer32</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ron Monte in New Jersey used to plate and rebuild Packard wipers. Likely he still does. I have no other contact info. </div></div> I spoke with Ron and he won't do it any more. He said he doesn't know of anyone else that will do them Issue is the pot metal quality. It gets distorted because of the heat in the plating process and are very tough to get working after that. </div></div> Well while browsing last night on Ebay, I discovered that Ron Monte had placed for sale two perfect NOS 32-34 wiper motors on Ebay with a buy now price. I was never expecting to find anything like that on Ebay. I am happy to report I can now park in handicap parking because I had to give an arm and a leg for them. This purchase concludes my interior restoration. I have now two fair condition 32-34 wiper motors for sale. I only want an arm for them

I did use an epoxy primer.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bkazmer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't wish to offend anybody, but I'm sure Packard wasn't this meticulous in finishing blocks and heads. And I agree with the comment on engine paint being used directly on bare metal - using primer is creating a weak link </div></div> You are right, but it is sure fun to make them look pretty I've been told that model T's were painted with paint coming out of a hose. How many T's have been restored down to that level? Not sure if primer is a weak link as it was recommended to use primer if you painted on steel. Probably an extra step unless you wanted to get the benefit of the primer to fill in any unsightly pits etc.

West, In Dennis Alder Packard book, he indicated that most Packard collectors consider the 32-34 the best of the Packards, so it's interesting why he did not include the 32 which was very close to the 33-34 in performance, looks etc. Also since the 32 was the first year back for the V12, I would thought that might make it more significant than the 33-34. Any time you put together a best of something list, that's a huge can of worms.

I got mine back from Prairie Porcelain. Looks great. About $900 plus shipping which was about $150 each way with insurance and a heavy wood crate. Time will tell if this job will last but it still waiting to be installed.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tbirdman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I get Car Collector Mag, and this month they listed the 100 most significant cars in history. They put the price of a Packard coupe roadster V12 1933-34 at $180K which for the current going price is more like $400K-500K. </div></div> By the way, Ken. My name was on that article, and I did contribute my opinions as to what should be on it, but I had nothing to do with putting those values in. Almost all were way off, like the Packard. </div></div> I did enjoy the article, and I'm sure would be for an interesting debate with car cars especially since you made a list. I was curious why they listed the 33-34 V12 Packard and not the 32 Twin-Six. All were very much alike. I know you have a styling bent towards the 32. Also the value of the 1912 Touring White at $560K was interesting as I know two guys who have 1913 Touring Whites who said they would sell me their cars at half price They didn't know anything that would make the 1912 White worth that much as they said the value of their 1913s was in the 50Ks.

I haven't studied the 35 pricing, but I think the 12 pricing is OK and the standard 8 would be around 100K while the Super 8 would be in the $120K range.

Part book specifically calls out 2 plain 7/16 washers for each of the wiring loom mounting stud. It makes a distinction between those washers used on the other 25 studs. I would assemble one washer on the head and then one on the nut side with the mounting tab in between.

I know today I could pick up a good #2 120 convertible coupe for 50-60K though they might bring more. The price guides that are published are way off. However the ones on the NADA web site seem to be more up to date. I get Car Collector Mag, and this month they listed the 100 most significant cars in history. They put the price of a Packard coupe roadster V12 1933-34 at $180K which for the current going price is more like $400K-500K. I think a junior open car is a great way to add a 30s open Packard car to your collection vs an open senior Packard.