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  1. Cosmetically, the 88s had no front fender namplates. Super 88s had Super 88 nameplates on the front fenders. At the back, 88s have plain tail light lenses, plain panels below the tail lights, and plain bumper ends (unless it has optional dual exhaust). Super 88S have tri-bar ornaments on the tail light lenses, stainless panels below the tail lights, and bumper ends with fake exhaust ports in them.

    88 interiors are not as fancy as Super 88 interiors, differences vary by model.

    Mechanically, they are the same.

    Paul

  2. >Vin# 567 M33 489

    567 is a '56 88

    M is the Lansing assembly plant

    33489 is the 32,489th 88 to come out of the Lansing plant (I believe they started at 01001. There would also be a 568M33489 (Super 88) and a 569M33489 (98).

    >STYLE --56 3669

    56 means 1956

    3669 is an 88 4-door sedan (a Super 88 would be a 3669D)

    >BODY --7219

    This is the 7,219th 88 4-door sedan body built at the Lansing Fisher Body plant.

    >TRIM --361

    361 is the interior trim code, which I don't have in front of me at the moment.

    PAINT-- S70-60

    S denotes special two-tone paint, where the roof and nose are one color and the trunk and lower body sides are another color. Conventional two-tone paint (without the S) would just be the roof painted a different color than the rest of the car. 70 is the code for Turquoise which is the color on the trunk and lower sides. 60 is the code for Alcan White which is the color on the roof and nose.

  3. The first thing that came to my mind was Animal from the Muppets.

    The second this was - can you imagine trying to wind those windows up and down with all that fur? How long do you think it'll take for the handles to get tangled in that mess?

    Caption - No animals were harmed in the upholstering of this interior.

  4. Looking for input from owners of '61 and '62 full sizers - how do the power windows on your cars operate? Do they operate all the time, key or not? Or do they only operate with the key in "run" or "accessory"? My '62 Olds has a bad relay. I've been trying to find a replacement, but it looks like Olds was the only one to use a relay.

    Thanks,

    Paul

  5. Looking for input from owners of '61 and '62 full sizers with power windows. How do your windows operate? Do they operate all the time, key or not? Or are they like my '62 Olds, where they only operate with the key in "run" or "accessory"? I've got a bad relay and have been trying to find a replacement, but it's looking like Olds was the only to use a relay.

    Thanks,

    Paul

  6. Yes, you understood correctly. That is what I wanted to know. Interesting. Apparently Olds was the only one to use a relay, which is great until the relay quits, then the windows don't work at all (and for some reason that is usually when they're down, and it's raining...). Replacements are hard to find/expensive, and now I know why - only Olds used them. I might have to make a permanent bypass.

    Thanks,

    Paul

  7. I am polling '61 and '62 full size Buick owners with power windows. How do your windows operate? Are they always hot? I have a '62 Olds with a bad power window relay. The windows are designed to be operated only in the "run" or "accessory" positions of the ignition switch. Tried to find an interchangable relay in the Buick parts book, but didn't have any luck. I found an online wiring diagram that shows that Olds was the only one to use a relay. Looks like Buick power windows are "hot" all the time. Is that true?

    Thanks,

    Paul

  8. I have a '62 Olds with a bad relay for the power windows. The windows are designed to only work with the key in "run" or "accessory" positions. The relay went bad and the windows wouldn't work. We had to bypass the relay to put them up. A buddy wanted to get me a used relay from a '61 or '62 Cadillac. I checked my Cadillac parts book for interchangability and didn't find a listing. Then, I looked at some wiring diagrams online and it looks like Cadillac power windows are hot all the time, wired in with the cigar lighters and courtesy lights. Is that the case? Can you '61/'62 Cadillac folks operate your windows all the time?

    Thanks,

    Paul

  9. Well, here's what I've learned. I hope I can relay in a pattern that makes sense...

    '62-'64 Impala, black, right side is part #4352138.

    '63 Olds 88 convertible with trim #330 (black) uses armrest numbers 4352138 and 4352139 - same as the '62-'64 Impala.

    '63 88 and S88, exc. SW with trim #s 331, 331, 341 and 351 (platinum) use armrest numbers 4356368 and 4356369.

    4356368 and 4356369 are also used on '62 D88 Holidays (with deluxe trim)and convertibles and S88 4-door sedans with trim #s 310, 321 and 331 (med. gray). There is also a standard number for D88 Holidays. Apparently the convertibles came with deluxe (chrome plastic) armrests, even if the Custom Luxury trim wasn't ordered. The non deluxe bases would have had interior colored plastic bases.

    So, yes, it appears the armrests are interchangable except for pad color.

    Paul

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