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Yes, I see now that is a tach. I thought it was another gage.
Aha! I don't have a tach number, but there are three different cluster printed circuit boards. One with no gages, one with gages exc. tach, and one with gages and tach. So, in order for the tach to work, you'll want to have a complete cluster assembly because the circuit boards are different.
Gages must have been standard on the SportOmega, ES and SX, but there must have been an optional cluster with a tach, too.
Paul
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Hmmm...
They do look kinda similar, don't they. I'll have to research that.
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Well, according to this you already have the gage cluster. It's standard on the SportOmega. I guess a tach wasn't offered. That would explain why there isn't a part number listed in the catalog.
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I can get a part number for the speedo head, but not for the tach. I can tell you that the speed head will be different with the tach, which was part of the U21 gage package.
Paul
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All 4 98 models in '55 came with rocker moldings, even the one in the photo further up the page. Look closely, they are there.
Also, all '55 98 coupes were referred to as DeLuxe. In '54 there was a standard and a DeLuxe. Standards had upholstery like the sedan. Deluxes had standard power windows and chrome roof bow moldings. For '55 the standard coupe was dropped. In '55 a Custom DeLuxe coupe was also offered. Those had all-leather upholstery, similar to the Starfire convertible.
You might try Fusick Automotive in CT for the trunk scripts. They had them at one time. I don't know if they are available anymore. It will be hunt and search for the rocker moldings, but I've been able to find much rarer things. Club memberships would be a good start.
Paul
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When I worked for the Olds dealer back in '88, we got in a Cutlass Supreme Classic with these wheels. It was white with a maroon landau top, and a maroon bucket seat interior. What a sharp looking car. I couldn't afford it at the time. It was sold to a local doctor. I often said I would buy that car if it were traded. A few years later it was, with hardly any mileage. I didn't even have a chance. It was sold the same night it was traded. And I've never seen it since.
Most of the Cutlasses we got in during those years either had the wire wheel covers, or standard wheel covers. Some had the Super Stocks. I think this is the only one we ever got that had these aluminum wheels. I think they were a take off of the crosslace aluminum wheels that were becoming popular on the Toronados, 88s, 98s and Cutlass Cieras.
As a side note, we had an '87 Supreme coupe in that funny salmon color. It was stolen from out lot. Twice. We finally had to to resort to putting it in the showroom to keep it safe.
Paul
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My parent's had a white convertible with a garnet interior. Wonder how hard it is to remove that body trim for painting???
Paul
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Never seen a set painted "Surf Green" or "Sheffield Mist" for a couple of examples.
Factory painted wheel covers were available in:
(Provincial) White
Silver (Sheffield Mist)
Red (Garnet Mist)
Green (Willow Mist)
Blue (Wedgewood Mist)
Fawn (Sahara Mist)
Very early in production, maybe for only a week or two, they were also available in Royal Mist (maroon). They were cancelled right after production started. Who knows if any were even made.
Shortly after introduction, Heather Mist body paint was discontinued and replaced by Chariot Red. From that point on, Chariot Red wheel covers were also available.
I believe the silver wheel covers were the default if no color was specified on the order sheet.
The Sunset Mist and Cameo Cream wheel covers shown in the sales brochure were not available from the factory, but I guess if you wanted to spend the money for a set of accessory wheel covers and have the dealer paint them, they'd do it for you. I think that template was more for replacing damaged single wheel covers than it was for anything else. I used to have one of those brass wheel cover templates. I bought it at Lansing in '02. Looked like more trouble than it was worth. I sold it to Vinny Carulli in NY. I guess he still has it. Sometimes I wish I had kept it, but I doubt I ever would have used it. I bought a set of those decals and they worked out fine.
Paul
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Numbers are cast into the controls right next to the respective ports. You'll have to remove the controls to see them correctly.
Paul
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It's from a '54 or '55 Oldsmobile. They used that cap both years.
Paul
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Doug,
Eastwood hasn't been a vendor at Hershey for a couple of years. You'd have been disappointed, I'm afraid...
Paul
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I don't have my trim codes in front of me. I believe U2 and U3 are accessory codes for power windows and power seat.
Paul
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I thought I could pinpoint the years of usage with sales brochures, but they all look the same from '42 to '48. '42 appears to have red letters, the other years appear to have white or silver. But these are all hand drawn illustrations, and I'm sure the artists took some liberties...
I can tell you what the '56 parts catalog says. One horn ring was used from '42 to '47. The other was used on '48 60 and 70 series cars. Of course, this book also says that the '48 98 used the same horn ring as all '49s, and the sales literature I have shows two different rings for those applications, so I don't know if the parts book can be counted on. Who knows what kind of supersessions there might have been after stock was depleted.
An eBay search found a '47 and a '48, both with the lighter colored ring. But, who knows what's original and what's been changed.
Paul
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I'm also trying to learn what exactly the Patrician Sedan is vs the Sedan. Both come in either Standard or Deluxe. I have a Deluxe Patrician Sedan. Deluxe would be sidemounts, trunk rack, bumpers...but what does the Patrician have that the regular sedan does not. Hmmmm
The Patrician Sedan, at least in 1931, featured the previously mentioned Pullman-type rear quarter lamps in place of a central dome lamp, silk robe cord, silk assist cords, dual rear armests, dual rear ash receivers, extra quality whipcord or mohair upholstery, and a special bird-like ornamental radiator cap (which was optional on lesser Oldses).
Paul
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Did you try Gary's in Carlisle? I thought he did rim-blow wheels.
Paul
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First year for that horn ring was '42. Last year was '48 (60 and 70 Series). I don't know the difference between the light and dark colors.
Paul
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My recommendation is to install it where you can see it. Mine is in the factory location, and the vent window post is in the way. If I ever do any work to that door, I'm moving the mirror rearward, so I can see it without any obstructions.
The driver's side view mirror was only standard on convertibles. It was optional on everything else, and frequently dealer installed. I'm sure the accessory package came with a template, but I'll bet a lot dealers installed them where the customers wanted them instead of where the template recommended.
A passenger side mirror was not available in '62. I've seen people put driver's side mirrors on the passenger's side for balance, but they are not correct. Something with the cut of the angle on the base.
Paul
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Glenn,
You might be thinking of '61. I had a '61 98 that had chrome valve covers, but I'm pretty sure it had a painted air cleaner. I don't know - that was a long time ago. Maybe Chuck T. will chime in, as he has a couple of '61 98s.
The Starfire engine was not optional in other models until '63 or '64, and I'm leaning toward '64.
By the way, the information included in the chart above came from the factory inspectors' guide.
I don't know what the term is for that chrome on the engine compartment items. I always called it flash-chrome. I understand it's not easy to replicate. Most of the re-chromes I've seen are way too shiny.
Paul
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Well, you were starting to make be doubt myself. But then I found this in the online version of the Puget Sound Chapter's June newsletter:
2012 - July 4 – 7; Des Moines, IA; Iowa Events Center (The first
Indoor Nationals ever); Hosted by the Olds Club of Iowa
Their newsletter editor is the past OCA V-P, so he would know. The Iowa Chapter has no info on their website at this time.
Paul
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My understanding is that it is to be held at the Iowa Events Center. They had about 450 cars at the Sturbridge meet and probably a comparable number of vendors.
Paul
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There was no presentation at the Board meeting for 2013.
As I'm sure you're aware, next year is Reno.
2012 is Des Moines - all indoors. Showfield access, I've been told, will be restricted to an hour in the morning and an hour in the evening - not come-and-go as you please. Showfield is at the Convention Center, not at a host hotel. This will require driving/shuttling/walking.
Ed Konsmo, former OCA V-P, is the new Head Judge.
It was a good meet. Mostly decent weather. The events I attended were well executed. I was not judged, so can't vouch for the process.
Paul
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Yes, they are all bucket seat and console cars. They all have dual exhaust. Some of those duals exited through the 1/4 panel, some did not. They are the only Olds (besides the Jetstar I) with the concave rear window. Rear bumper is Starfire only and prone to rust through - and very hard to find.
His ad doesn't give a whole lot a detail, but for $500...
Paul
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Contact John Oldenburg at olden@yousq.net. He deals in Guide-Matics and Autronic Eyes. You might be able to work a trade out with him.
Paul
Anything from an 81 Omega"Sport"
in Oldsmobile - Buy/Sell
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Here is the low-down on the tach...
There was an optional gage cluster on the bottom-feeder Omegas. Option code U14 - included trip odometer, voltmeter, temperature and oil pressure gages. Sold for $65. Was standard on the ES and SportOmega cars. There was a 2nd optional gage cluster available on all Omegas. Option code U21. Included all of the above, plus a tach. $32 on ES and SportOmega, $97 on all others.
Something else interesting - the brochure says the standard wheel trim on the SportOmega was the (PA4) deluxe wheel disc painted body color. The salesman's specs says the standard wheel trim was the N86 polycast wheel, and that the PA4 wheel trim wasn't even available. Also not available was the PO3 Rallye wheel trim, shown on the car in the brochure! Non-painted deluxe wheel discs weren't available, nor were plain wheels with trim rings. But wire wheel covers, with or without locks, were available. Wire wheel covers - on a SportOmega... :eek: Blackwall tires were standard, white letter and whitewalls were optional.
Gotta love the '80s.
Paul