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Yes that one is a '57. '57 and '58 had all three carbs the same size small bore carbs. '59 and up the ends carbs were large bore and the center carb still small. '66 all carbs were large bore.

That is the firing order, which is actually 18436572, so some of the numerals were cast shallow or you are reading them wrong. '61 tripower intakes did not have casting numbers on them, or most didn't, so you may have a '61. Look at the bottom of the intake near the front and you will find a date code, L169 or something like that. Give us the date code and we can tell you which year you have.

The only thing called a "turkey roaster" relating to Pontiacs that I am aware of refers to the large metal cover that went over the '57 & '58 fuel injection units.

The Cars & Parts magazines are spoken for and are no longer available.

I have most of the Cars & Parts magazines from 1972-1980 free to the first taker. I will ship these media mail but the taker must pay shipping up front. The following number of issues, by year, are included; 1972 nine issues, '73 ten, '74 eight, '75 eleven, '76 seven, '77 all, '78 all, '79 eleven, '80 eleven. There would be more but an AACA member who borrowed a number of issues did not return them as promised. If interested send me a PM.

You have a pm.

Thank you for the response.

Can anyone provide the application this generator was used on. The tag also has Auto Lite GJC7012A on it. Serial number is 9M095336. It is a 12 volt generator and is externally regulated. If it is something someone may be looking for I will put it on ebay, otherwise it will be scrapped. It appears to be in pretty good shape and the case and tag are good enough to be cleaned up and put on a car however it has not been checked for function. Thanks, John

I second Bill Hargele's post. I've got three cars with Hagerty's and not one of them had to be appraised. The last one I added is a work in progress that is far from done and the picture indicates such; the only question they had about it was "how long will it take me to finish it?". Friends who have old collector cars insured by old car insurers other than Hagerty report equal satisfaction with their insurers.

I hit the link and can read all of the posts without logging in? I cannot see the pictures though unless I do log in. FYI I had to register even though I am a POCI member. I will recommend that they change the sire so anyone can see the pictures although I have no influence over what they do at all. If you are into Pontiacs I would recommend registering, even more I'd recommend joining POCI, as there are many knowledgeable Pontiac people who belong to the organization.

url https://secure.poci.org/forums/Forums.cfm

I did not see where anyone else had posted this but the POCI bulletin board is now up and anyone, not just POCI members, can now register for it.

I did not see where anyone else had posted this but the POCI bulletin board is now up and anyone, not just POCI members, can now register for it.

If Cadillac engines were that color of blue yes you would want to paint the engine that color but not until it is rebuilt and back together. The first thing you want done is for the block to be vatted and thoroughly cleaned internally to remove all of the dirt, etc. from the water jackets. It will not run cool after being rebuilt if you do not have this done. Second have the taper in the bores measured. If the taper is less than .0003 you will not have to have it rebored, just deglazed and put new rings in it. I recently rebuilt a '61 Pontiac engine with 90,000 miles on it which had almost no taper (every bore .0003 or less) and all it needed was polishing of the crank journals, new bearings and new rings. Since the car will never be raced and only goes to week end cruise ins it will last my lifetime and then some. If the taper is .0004 or larger in four holes and .0003 or less in four you can bore and put new pistons in just the four large holes if you want or need to save a little $$. Third have a valve job done on the heads and with that many miles insist on new valve guides. If you only go to cruise ins I would not worry about having hardened exhaust valve seats installed. If you plan to drive it long distances I would probably have them installed. I could go on but will stop now and let others weigh in.

For the information of all I've received several messages now asking for the number of the man who owns this car. I answered a couple but in fairness to Eric Bernard am now going to stop responding to those requests. He started this thread and in fairness to him we ought to give give a chance to get the car.

I know of a '60 Buick wagon with the original hard back bucket seats in it. If you are interested I think the man wants $10,000 for it. It is a complete car but needs complete restoration. It is in Wisconsin now but was not a Wisconsin car I believe the man hauled it up from Nebraska about three months ago. If you are interested let me know and I will put you in touch with the fellow. The bucket seats alone have sold for as much as $5000 recently.

Your "first law" is apparently true. About a month ago just for a lark I went to Baytown to look at a '65 Falcon Futura that was on the Houston Craigslist. It was listed for only $400 so I figured it would be a rustbucket piece of junk and we went in my wife's car. It did have terrible surface rust but was a complete car with no holes in the outer surfaces. Long story short I bought it for $300 and had to come back home and get the trailer. It was worth thr trouble though.

Nice car.

If you are not a member of POCI it may be a good idea for you to join. There will be technical experts who know your car and owners of '67 GP convertibles who will be glad to share information with you. You can go DetriotIron.com and buy a cd with all of the shop manuals for your car on it, although I personally prefer the paper copies and they can be had on ebay. The performanceyears.com website bulletin board can be excellent. Regarding the engine they are out there but be careful. If you don't see it yourself and if it hasn't been magnafluxed I would be very wary of buying it. I personally have been bitten twice in the past two years buying old Pontiac blocks and recently talked to a fellow from Canada who has been bitten three times; they didn't turn out to be what they had been represented to be or they were cracked. Good luck, Pontiacs are great cars.

wrefrakis I sent you a PM with my phone number in it. If you will call me or send me a PM back with your number so I can call you we can arrange our meeting in early August to transfer the magazines.

Thank you I sincerely appreciate it. I will be gracious and offer the second responder 1st look so he can do his research project, if he will agree to send me the copies as he finishes with a year or three. And as I finish going through them I'll put them on this site and make them available to someone else. These will be enjoyable reading.

Thank you so much for responding to my post West, I do appreciate the courtesy.

If the corrosion has not been to the point where there is a hole or holes in the bottom of one or both of the bowls you can bead blast the area to clean it out thoroughly, or use a dremel with a wire wheel, fill it with JB Weld, and then file and sand the filled area flush with the carb bottom. I have done this a number of times. You could probably do this without consequences even if one or both of the bowls are holed but I wouldn't unless the body were really rare and I couldn't find another one. Of course you could also get someone to rebuild the area with a tig welder.

Bill, I can restore an AFB for you. I primarily work with Pontiacs but have a large number of AFBs including those from Buicks. A restored carburetor would have been completely disassembled and thoroughly cleaned, the hardware replated in cadmium and zinc, the springs will have been baked after plating to prevent hydrogen embrittlement, the body and top bead blasted and sealed, and then reassembled with a kit and test run on a 389 Pontiac engine on a test stand. My price for a restored AFB is $225 + shipping. I do not sell cores. I will try to post a picture of a restord carburetor. John

Your picture answered my question; thank you. Nice job on the carb. Are the metal components cadmium plated? John