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Dave, yes it's round. It's also the only speaker grill I have ever seen that was factory installed.
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I'll comment.......no surprise. My first AACA event was back in 1971. Been going to Hershey since I was six years old. In the 80's and later I have on and off had a membership in the club, until about ten years ago when I became very active here on the fourm, I figured it was a debt of honor to join and support national. It was a great move.........but let's stay on track about attending shows and tours. I agree with Matt's conclusions. Just last week, I attended my first tour with national since 1973. I was too young to know what was going on then as far as reservations and plans. I'll comment on how I ended up going on the Florida tour last week.
I wanted to drive my 1917 White on an "age appropriate" car tour...........within 600 miles as soon as it was ready. So, before it even ran I was looking for events...............SOMEWHERE ELSE........... not because I don't like or want to attend AACA tours, but things are not "easy or user friendly" figuring out what tour a 1917 car can attend. You need to actually look through every month on the calender to find events near you, then you need to figure out if you car can go on the named tours.........what years does "Glidden" "Sentimental" "Founders" ect take for cars? Hell if I know, and I have been in the hobby 50 years. So, it's hard to know if my car is accepted. Also, sometimes the dates ebb and flow...........which I understand, as road conditions and traffic can make earlier cars problematic for the tour from a safety and time standpoint. Then we get............"Southeastern Divisional Tour" which I just attended. It was advertised in two different regions of the AACA North Central Region........and Kingdom Under the Sun Region. I saw the ad in the "Under the Sun" region page......and had to go look to find out where it was........to say it took some digging is true. Honestly........I was lucky to have found the tour, and it was EFFORT to figure out what cars could attend.......I actually sent emails and made two phone calls to determine if my 1917 was allowed, and then if that car was a good idea for the area. I received prompt answers to all inquiries. While doing all of this I was actually asking myself "was this a normal process for this event?" It seemed that if I wasn't determined to go on a tour......I would have never known about the event. 40 year members from Florida were not aware of the tour.........??????? So, it's not just me. Now.....I am NOT complaining, and I know how difficult it is to run car clubs. I also know how difficult it is to host a national or regional event............again no complaints. Also note.........I'm not complaining about the registration process that was snail mail...........I'm a dinosaur but the younger people would find the process difficult and cumbersome.
Other observations.............my trusty side kick, Phil with "The hands like George the Animal Steel" was asking lots of questions while we were attending the tour and wanted me to compare it to past tours both by the AACA and other events I have done. It was a good exercise to make comments here. Here is my explanation I gave him. All tours and events are different within the same club, just by nature some are done one way, and others are done totally different or opposite. Since I have spent a lifetime touring and showing, I go with the flow, take things as they come, and enjoy every hour of the day. I don't look to complain, pick apart the tour book- pick apart the schedule-pick apart the venue-pick apart the hotel...............it's a ton of work and ten thousand things have to come together with LOTS of volunteers carrying the load. Different people have different talents. Makes for a varied and interesting time. I have lots of thoughts about last weeks event. All of them are positive. It was the first public national car event that occurred since COVID. The entire event was a gamble the AACA and the regions to even attempt so soon and with no known guarantee that one car would show..........so, I am grateful they took the shot and pulled everything off. Getting meals scheduled months in advance when the venue was closed...........impressive! Getting the hotel to take a chance on a group of "old people" so soon after restrictions were getting dropped.........I knew I was fortunate to have a place to take my car, meet old and new friends, and have a shot at a "normal car event". I explained to Phil that this entire thing was a blessing, and we would take everything as it comes...........and deal with it. Were there a few issues.......yes. None related to the AACA or the regions...........the 'bumps in the road" were directly related to the shutdown and opening of the venue. It was all minor, and really not worth mentioning. I get it.......we were DAM LUCKY TO BE THERE. Would I do the exact same tour in the exact same location, with the exact same events......YES. As a matter of fact, we like the area so much, I plan on going back for Christmas week this year instead of going to the Keys. Honestly, the roads and scenery are so nice, I will take long weekends there in the future with my car because it is so much more enjoyable than Souther Florida traffic. I couldn't have been happier with the entire event.
THANK YOU TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THE TOUR POSSIBLE. SIMPLY PUT, IT WAS FANTASTIC!
I would be happy to give feedback on a few small items that are minor in detail, and would only offer the feedback to national so they could offer a general guide to regions. I'm guessing they have already done this, and I'm also guessing it was COVID that caused the few things I'm thinking of to have been displaced due to logistics. NO BIG DEAL, I was a happy member and participant.
As far as on line registration.............things evolve, and when everything gets settled at the new headquarters, maybe they can take a shot at upgrading to on line if it makes sense. Best to all.........a Happy AACA Member, Ed.
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I have only seen that grill on 36-37 series cars. That said, a dealer could have installed it on an earlier car as part of a dealer supplied kit. It would not bother me to see it on any 1933-1938 series Pierce.
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On 4/19/2021 at 11:57 AM, Restorer32 said:
What I find interesting is this. We restored a 1928 Autocar 5 Ton truck. The spring shackle bolts were worn from their original 3/4" diameter to the size of a pencil. No odometer but how many miles must it have travelled to cause that much wear ? Same with a 1908 Pullman we restored. Originally the clutch and brake pedals had CLUTCH and BRAKE deeply cast into the pedals. They were worn to the point where CLUTCH could barely be read and BRAKE was even worse. How many miles did this 4 cylinder car have to travel to show such wear? It was in a museum beginning in 1949 and had never been restored. I sometimes think we underestimate how many miles some of these early cars were driven.
A friend has a 1929 Bentley Speed Six. In 1933 it had over 175,000 miles on it......documented by the factory records. About half the car had been replaced......including the frame from an accident and 2/3 of the engine. You can drive them. Many did. Also have seen a 1937 Pierce sedan, V-12 with 200,000 plus and it was parked in the mid 50’s. (Off the road for the war.) The car had an actual log in the glovebox with all the service records. -
33 minutes ago, Gary_Ash said:
Ed: It might happen at Lime Rock first. You know the way to get there.
I have lots of experience with street racing in Hampton County! Never been caught....yet! 😝-
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I almost married one! A mistake I mean! Several times! I came to my senses! 😎
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Fix it till it’s broke! 🥸
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27 minutes ago, Gary_Ash said:
I haven't checked the compression, but the engine had been rebuilt before, clearances were good, pistons were knurled a little, and new rings installed. It should be OK. At some point, I'll test compression, but for now, if it runs, it will be just fine.
Just fine? I was hopeful for a chance to “drive it like I stole it”..............Laguna Seca and Monterey Historic's are calling me to do a few speed runs. Still have my sanction card. I say let’s drop the hammer and max it out!
I haven’t done a four wheel slide in an open wheeled car in fifteen years. 👍
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It’s a great car, and looks decent from what I see. The frightening thing? The market and the price............twenty years ago, it would have been gone in 30 seconds at 25k. Now hanging around for months at a very fair price. Ask yourself this question.
When was the last time you saw a decent roadster for sale that wasn’t overpriced...........by forty percent. Today, we see one that looks underpriced.......and it hasn’t sold. Now ask yourself about you sedan’s market value. Ok.........go have a drink.
Personally I like these cars, and have driven them. With a decent rear end gear, they are terrific drivers for their year. If I was looking for an inexpensive toy, I would grab this if local.
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I was trying to think of something ridiculously funny to post here, but I’m having a bad day and just can’t come up with anything. It’s obvious Ray Charles and Stevie a wonder picked out the color combination.....and the incorrect headlight lenses make the car look like Phillis Diller before she got her face done. Sorry Bob, sometimes I can’t help myself! 🥸
I sold all my 33 literature a few years ago when I sold my 1247. I obviously know the car.......but only the recent history since the 80’s. The car has great lines, and a great look. I especially like the fact they haven’t attempted the circus wagon treatment by bolting on a bunch of trash.(Read as lights, mirrors, ect.) You can’t ask for a better driving Pierce to take on tours. Smooth, powerful, well mannered......and great breaks. The car has it all. And it couldn’t belong to a better guy, and someone I am lucky to call a friend. I’m looking forward to getting a ride in it. Probably soon........I was hoping the week before Pebble. “I will shake it down for you........) 😏
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That’s a good question for Matt Harwood........I’m certain he will see this and answer.
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Anyone have one of these, or seen one like it before? Any info available on it? hanks, Ed
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28 minutes ago, alsancle said:
This is how millions of young people started out in the car hobby back in the day......an off brand doodlebug.
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wws944- going from memory..........I live 3000 miles away!
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4 hours ago, wws944 said:
@mike6024- It is true that Diablo Canyon is going to be shut down in 2025, and we lost SONGS a few years ago. I used to be a big fan of nuke, and to some extent, still am. Wish we had replaced all the dirty coal with it decades ago. Ironically, the enviro-wackos prevented it. But nuke is a 'base level' generation capability. It doesn't follow varying loads well. So it must be supplemented with other forms of generation that are more agile. For the past 10-20 years, that has meant natgas - and more specifically modern combined cycle and "peaker" plants. Combine those with cheap, yes "fracked", natgas has meant nuke and coal have been on the way out for a while. Even older non-combined cycle natgas plants have been shut down as uneconomical.
One example I can point to near me is at Moss Landing CA. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moss_Landing_Power_Plant) The plant was originally built to burn natgas and fuel oil. Over time, the original generation was replaced with combined cycle. Now the site is morphing into a major battery storage system site - to capture excess daytime solar production and feed it into the grid at night. All the grid connections are already there.
It is really interesting to watch the stats at the Cal ISO web site on grid demand and how it is being supplied. (http://www.caiso.com/TodaysOutlook/Pages/index.html and http://www.caiso.com/TodaysOutlook/Pages/supply.aspx) Both have changed A LOT over the past decade.
On the demand side, it used to be that peak grid demand was in the mid-afternoon, on weekdays. This coincided with peoples workdays, A/C usage, and so on. However with the advent of customer owned rooftop solar, the mid-day peak had completely disappeared during most of the year. There are now two peaks/day - in the early morning before solar kicks in, and in the evening when everyone is home cooking meals, lights, and and watching TV. On the Cal ISO Demand web page, they also show a second graph where they subtract grid-level wind and solar from the demand to see what the demand is from conventional sources (e.g., natgas, nuke, and hydro).
If you look at the supply side web page, you can see that for weeks now we have actually exported power to surrounding states during part of the day. And that is with Diablo Canyon only operating one of their two reactors. There is now so much solar on both the grid and customer sides of the meters, the need for "base load" generation is quickly disappearing. It easily explains why the failures at SONGS were probably a blessing in disguise, and Diablo Canyon really does need to shut down soon. (Google "duck curve".)
For much of the U.S., especially in the South and West, the future really is solar/wind as they are the cheapest form of generation, combined with battery storage. The neat thing for us homeowners is that we can often do the same on our own roofs - and treat the grid as a backup, rather than primary source of energy.
The march of technology is unstoppable. So it will happen. Like EVs, this is all going to take years to play out - no matter what the pols in WDC think. Lots of stranded assets to use up and write off.
Is the Moss site going to use up the local farmland? It's some of the most productive in the hemisphere.............
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I used the Andy's shop in the thread. Great guy. He has a webpage. Give him a call. Best, Ed
edinmass, Hi, I can rebuild or supply you the strapping for your snubber shocks, Strapping 1 1/4 or 1 1/2 is $1500. per ft
Can rebuild for $200.00 each Andy's Garage andygarage@comcast.net www.wiseandysgarage.com 302-245-7276
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1 hour ago, JACK M said:
175 to 185?
I would be OK with that if it stays consistent.
At 60 degrees outside, that sounds warm to me. Check actual temperature at the block, and top and bottom of the radiator. Flow could be an issue. On a hot summer day, your going to have issues. You may get lucky with the evapo after some weeks. Be sure to temperature cycle it as often as possible. Long drives are the best.
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Steve, the knob portion looked the same as Wayne’s. It was two positions, and the back side I can’t remember. If you over tighten them they snap off...........just tighten them with your fingers.........even just a bit of torque with any tool will make them fail.
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A Trico visionall switch is the most difficult part to find for any Cadillac in the early 30s. It took me 17 years to find one. And it’s not my first rodeo.
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I'm a fan of just straight evapo.............if you have lots of scale that is from aluminum or organics, evaporated will not help. Evapo only works with RUST not corrosion or mineral deposits. You can run something like CLR if you think you have issues from mineral deposits.......but it may damage the radiator and other components. Evapo is HARMLESS on everything, and only binds to iron oxide. I left my evaporator in my 32 Pierce for 7 months...........and the system looked like it was a new casting made the day before. If evaporated turns black rather quickly, its contaminated from rust and need to be changed again.
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Got about another hundred miles on the White today. It’s now so familiar that driving a 104 year old car seems routine. Was able over the last week to determine the oil consumption of the car........just under one quart per 100 miles. Not too bad considering it’s all factory parts internally. She smokes blue at warm idle......not bad, but enough to let you know it’s pre WWI. We’re back to Rec90 fuel.......and it’s obviously likes it better. More analysis on the car coming soon.........Ed
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Sad to see long time positive contributors leave for any reason. He certainly had his reasons...........and I shall respect them. Unfortunately people come in and out of our lives.....sometimes without explanations. My thought is to take the positive and keep it with you as a life lesson. Best wishes to him........Ed.
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7 minutes ago, Matt Harwood said:
Look closely--the first photo shows it painted. Second photo is inconclusive. My thought is that it almost has to have been painted--the crankcase was raw aluminum but the timing chain cover is steel, so it couldn't have been left bare. Would they have painted it silver? Unlikely since everything that's painted on the engine is black. Why introduce another finish that wouldn't match anything else? They designed these engines deliberately to look good.
I maintain that black is correct and that engine in the photo is a fluke.
The joys of custom cars! Makes me smile......and LOL. I’m an expert......I have seen three factory photos, and my self imposed delusion is the bottom photo can be the only correct possibility. 😱
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I would run straight evapo again.......and leave it in for a few months as long as there is no freeze danger. You may still need to pull your radiator and back flush it. Given enough time, evapo can work wonders.........just keep heat cycling it.
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Best Value in a Roadster
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JUST A SHORT NOTE....Most companies stopped building true roadsters in the 1930/1931/1932 model year. Thus, you may or may not want to consider convertible coupes. Simply, drivability is what dictates price. The better the driver, the more valuable the car..............a Series 80/81 Pierce can be bought in the mid 50's for a very nice car.......like 90 points plus. With a high speed rear, they are very good drivers. Whey won't keep up with an 8. It's all a compromise.