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4 hours ago, padgett said:
GAR Wood is a boat.
Yup, I don’t have a photo of my buddies 1931 Tripple Cockpit Garwood...........nice hole in the water! BOAT= break out another thousand.
9 minutes ago, Ozstatman said:Ed, THIS is listed in the Parts For Sale Forum. Suitable for your White? 🤔
WWI truck oil guage. Neat, and rare. 👍👍
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7 hours ago, Gary_Ash said:
Ted: You mentioned needing fenders. Under Mass. RMV regulations, it says that cars after 1949 need to have fenders if they were made with them. Shouldn't that give you a pass on the '34 pickup? But, the mudguard sentence is confusing. Here's the section in the code:
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Fenders. Front and rear fenders must be in place on all vehicles manufactured after model year 1949 if such vehicles were designed and manufactured to be operated with front and rear fenders. Every passenger motor vehicle under 10,000 lbs. (GVWR) , except four wheel drive vehicles which are equipped with tires which extend beyond the fenders or body of such vehicle shall be equipped with flaps or suitable guards to reduce such spray or splash to the rear and side.
Having personally owned three inspection stations in Massachuetts, and inspected well over 50,000 cars personally.............. the truck should fail for open wheels. Mud flaps are certainly required. Problem is today, the registry has live feed cameras in the bay from all angles, when that registration hits the VID in Boston, it’s gonna switch over to that bay on the monitor screen. Personally, I would pull the owner aside, fail it, and have him bring it back in three weeks and then I would put a good sticker on it..........in the parking lot, as reinspections do not require the truck to be pulled in the bay. It’s best to just wait till the bed is on the truck. I have driven my Pierce Arrow for the last ten years in mass pre COVID.........without a sticker on it. YOM plates and they just don’t bother me.
5 hours ago, Gary_Ash said:Mudflaps, eh? It’s going to be interesting when I try to get the Indy car licensed and inspected to go on the road - no fenders at all. But, you say, I can just run a 2x4 across the rear end and hang some flaps on it…
Don’t forget to come up Reed Rd to Hixville for a visit.
Gary.......do you want to know the proper procedure for getting you car on the road? Probably NOT. Mass State Police inspection in Westfield Mass is the current location to get it’s initial safety inspection. You will need ALL receipts for the build........engine, transmission, rear end, frame, wheels, ect........swap meet cash purchase does NOT fly. I know the guys there.......they have all the joy of an impacted wisdom tooth. If you have a title that has an engine number on it......run with it. I know the red flags in the system, if you need help, call me. Do NOT let RMV or SP see that car. Process paperwork like it’s a sedan and don’t say a word. Put a YOM plate on it. Then I will give you the ultimate inside line on being left alone. Ed.-
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59 minutes ago, Grimy said:
In the immortal words of Br'er Rabbit, "Please don't throw me into the briar patch!"
All the forum members are invited to go for a ride and take it for a spin. Uncle George especially so......want to make the comparison from the White to the Pierce. I know the answer............and I wish I could say the White eats the Pierce for lunch...........but alas, NOTHING on the planet will eat up a Pierce Arrow. I do admit, I would like to run down the road with George, and bump the front bumper of the White off the back of his Pierce. Only problem is, when he decides to leave me behind eating his dust........I will.
PS - It’s possible in his elderly decrepitude that I could keep up.............but only if he is getting old.............the GAR members would be proud of my friend and their contemporary. He’s still got game.👍😛
2 minutes ago, edinmass said:
All the forum members are invited to go for a ride and take it for a spin. Uncle George especially so......want to make the comparison from the White to the Pierce. I know the answer............and I wish I could say the White eats the Pierce for lunch...........but alas, NOTHING on the planet will eat up a Pierce Arrow. I do admit, I would like to run down the road with George, and bump the front bumper of the White off the back of his Pierce. Only problem is, when he decides to leave me behind eating his dust........I will.
PS - It’s possible in his elderly decrepitude that I could keep up.............but only if he is getting old.............the GAR members would be proud of my friend and their contemporary. He’s still got game.👍😛
GAR - Grand Army of the Republic. 1861-1865.
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They are basically simple. I sent mine to Andy as we are busy and the learning curve at the time was not appealing. I’m certain he can handle them if all the parts are there. They are just “nuts and bolts”.........no mystery. After decades, I have learned that guys who have years of experience can knock out things easier than I can. No learning curve. Andy was great............call him, and work with him......he will get it done.
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Pat......as a strictly pre war guy, I like all the cars in the collection. That said, none of them are cars that people will beat your doors down for.......unless you price them under market. Most of the advice here is good. How much time and effort you want to spend selling them is important. It’s difficult at best to sell good turn key cars today. First, if you don’t have clear titles in your name, the car is NOT sellable........for anywhere near its potential value. My honest and humble opinion is to toss them on eBay at NO RESERVE........do one at a time, and list all the cars you have in the ad. Let everyone know all the cars are no reserve, one at a time, photos and video will be a big help. Run a 10 day auction. Let them fly. You could spend thousands of dollars and countless hours, and not come out ahead of a no reserve eBay sale. One last comment, the value of the cars decreases EVERY day, sell them NOW. Best of luck, Ed.
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35 minutes ago, alsancle said:
On one hand, I agree with you. Having to explain why you paid 10 times the perceived market for something seems annoying. Basically true of 90% of the musclecars. A "J" in the vin on a 68 Mopar is a big deal.
On the other hand, if you are a T-Bird guy, in to the club, etc, you don't need to explain it to your T-Bird buddies. You are king of the hill.
I expect this car to go for lots of money. 175K plus.
Well.........one thing is for certain. No reserve will determine its current and true value. Not knowing what others have done in the past, and this seems to be a great example.........a bunch of people will either be happy or crying in their soup.
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I sure hope the royal family had a Springfield car........I need some spares.
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Access to charging stations and rates will probably become regulated at the state and federal level. Wait till they offer a “premium “ charging position for faster access to the better located and over used stations. I think the most interesting future of EV’s is the on demand use in the city’s. Since a car is stationary 99 percent of the time, it takes up room, is depreciating, and self driving units are definitely in the near future.......why own a EV? Where I live 95 percent of my driving is within five miles of home & work. Since home & work are a half mile apart I can walk as easily as waiting for the future driverless Uber or Lyft self driver. With work from home now permanently part of the workforce, and it’s going to expand...........lots of “normal” things that have evolved over the last 125 years are going to go out the window. The future of transportation is going to be drastically different for 70 percent of miles driven in the next 30-50 years. The change won’t come as fast as many think, but it will get here in time. Other interesting questions......in my old age, if I have a LEV.......light electric vehicle that only goes 30 mph and a five mile range restriction from my home.........will I need insurance? Will I need a drivers license? I can certainly see co-op neighborhood ownership of such small basic transportation units as we become elderly..........with so many people living to their 80’s and 90’s and the need for transportation at that age so minuscule............the one size fits all cost of a car, insurance, taxes that has been the norm for 100 years is going to change. I’m probably the right age to experience this shift in the next fifteen years.
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5 hours ago, ericmac said:
I really want a ride in this some day.
I suspect a year from now it will be at the Gilmore on permanent loan. I’ll use it in Michigan for tours........
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Looks great, well done. Impressive results for an at home restoration. 👍👍👍
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My father had twenty of these to keep parts in back in the 70’s. I may have one or two left.
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2 hours ago, Matt Harwood said:
How do I get a boob friend? Is that like, my wife?
It’s killing me not to answer this.........🤔
Peter G, you owe me dinner!
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our 1937 Brunn K also had that damage as well as damage to the housing back in the mid 80’s and a pump was impossible to find back then........
I sure miss Jack Passy. Great guy and always had a smile. We were fortunate to buy all his Pierce parts and spares while he was still fairly mobile and active in the shop. How a junk man was ever given access to a property like that is asinine. Jack had been around a long time and knew what was worth saving.
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1 hour ago, 1957Birdman said:
Edinmass,
You pose an interesting philosophical question. Would you get more satisfaction out of owning the actual Mona Lisa or a picture of it? Either one could be hung on the wall and probably provide the same visual satisfaction viewing. Of course one is priceless and the other not. I am in your camp. Interestingly enough, my '57 is the same color combination as this car. It even has power steering which this car doesn't. Even if I had the money I would never spring for this car because I like to drive mine and I would be afraid to drive this one except on and off of the closed trailer I drove to the show. There is not much fun in that, at least not to me.
Lew Bachman
1957 T-Bird Colonial White/Flame Red Interior
Im not into fakes, rebodied cars, 8 to 12 swaps, ect. Just in the case of some cars......like this T Bird.....if you don’t open the hood, how can you tell it’s something special. In my opinion Matt is incorrect on the guy buying a T Bird for 250 and having unlimited money.........that usually applies to the Ferrari crowd and similar. I have never seen a muscle car guy who would step up on a car that isn’t instantly recognized as a special from the outside. I’m sure there may be a few, but I have never met them. A Yenko is identifiable without opening the hood.
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Chrysler and a packard look nice............
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4 minutes ago, alsancle said:
I hate to say it, but it looks like they stripped it and then left it out in the rain.
They washed it in seawater every day for a decade............notice the engine photo has green paint on the fender, car in the ad has no paint..........interesting!-
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History to the 40’s.........so one can say it’s probably real. Decent open Packard, at what appears to be in the market trading price.
3 hours ago, John Bloom said:AJ, thanks for sharing that eye candy. A great looking car. Ed, is the gearing the same in an 80 vice an 81?
Also, no one has commented, but is getting a 33 or 36 for under six figures not realistic? My gut tells me that there aren’t many and the number changing hands at any price is low ....
I have never owned a Series 80/81 or 33/36 Pierce. I would own one if the body style and price were right for me........and that’s lower than 99 percent of the owners want to hear. I have 8’s and 12’s so my motivation is different than other people. A very well sorted Pierce in identical configuration would be more money than this car(1929).........for a reason, it’s a much better driver. In my humble, but correct opinion.
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Cool car with good documentation. The question is how many people today have 200k plus for a T Bird.........regardless of how special the package is. That’s ten times the money on a plain Jane driver. I have no clue to cars changing hands in this world......and category. That said 250k for a toy offers one almost unlimited choices post war......and pre war.
Im not undercutting the value or importance of the car.......but 250 in the hand can buy a bunch of fun cars. Factor in that this car looks the same to us uneducated T Bird guys as a 25k car...............it will be interesting to see if it changes hands.
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Sold body and frame.......so the ad says. Yup, even after fifty years in the barn basement the frame is ok....thr body???.........my Identical 100 point car is available for .25 cents on the dollar to restore this one to 80 points.
1 hour ago, alsancle said:36 club sedan is a rare car. I have a boob friend that let me drive his. Pretty cool cars.
He’s a great guy, and I can’t believe he lets you drive his stuff. I suppose he felt bad you have never driven a decent car before.
Ad also says, 100 of these made..........NOPE, another internet expert that’s got no clue. Actual production of all body styles on the 1602 series was in the 60’s. Maybe a half dozen remain of all body styles. Maybe.
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1 hour ago, alsancle said:
You are a funny boy. Stupid me to think a 7 figure car would roll of the trailer with the top up but not latched. I learned the hard way.As for the convertible sedan, I’m guessing that is a careful two man job.
My only regret was I wasn’t there to see it! 😜
On the positive side......it wasn’t your car.
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John, No..........but that car today would cost a fortune to do well. Certain Marques are not doing well.......compared to others. Personally I like the car a lot, and would add it to my garage, it’s a fantastic platform. Lincoln’s have suffered out of proportion to the rest of the market in my humble opinion.
PS- fantastic closed cars are very, very strong. Some selling for much more than open examples.
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160 is 35 cents on the dollar for a restoration today.............I like the car and would own it in a heartbeat.
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Rebuilt = changed the oil three years ago.
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AJ has experience with Cadillac tops. Drive the car 55 mph with the top unlatched, and let the wind do the work for you. Worked for him on our V-16 Cadillac........should work ok for a V-8 also.
Be sure ALL doors are open all the way............sometimes they need the clearance to roll backwards.
1932 Studebaker Indy car build
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Knock in the head........
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