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alsancle

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  1. I'm always cautious of sale results where I didn't see the car in person or know the whole story of the particular vehicle. Usually when you see something sell real "cheap" there is a reason.
  2. The economy is horrible. Other than the top top Classics all segments are down. Packards are doing better than most muscle cars. As for the aging thing, there is always another generation of collector that comes along. Most vintage Packards from the 20s and 30s are expensive cars, you need to be further along in life to be able to afford one. It's not something most 25 year olds have disposable cash for.
  3. That exhaust manifold can be repaired by a good stitch welder. Of course, those guys are practically non existent. You should be able to replace the entire clutch/pressure plate assembly with a modern replacement. I'm running a ford truck setup on my Stutz. Unfortunately, you need someone to have already figured out the best swap or do it yourself.
  4. What year Studebaker were you thinking? All the V8 engines I can think of from that era have ports on the inboard side of the block. It doesn't seem that the exhaust pipes would be able to make it up and over the block to the inside of the engine.
  5. If they are still around wanna bet if they have whitewalls now? Note the subdued color schemes too.
  6. Does a prewar car get any cooler than this? Voisin C28 Aerosport with the Knight patented sleeve valve straight six.
  7. Here is one with a Dubos body that I like but may not be universally loved. At this point they were using supercharged Graham engines. I recall this car selling at one of the Pebble Beach auctions. EDIT: Note the subdued original colors and the showy later transformation.
  8. I stand corrected. I should have said "most" or "many". I was thinking of the ones I was familiar with, Voisin, Delage, Delehaye, Bugatti, Talbot-Lago. Of course Georges Irat was left hand drive but I forgot about that one. EDIT: Renault had left hand drive models in the 30s too. The Panhard Dynamic has center/right steering.
  9. I think people would be surprised by the number of PB best of show winners that have been "tweaked" during restoration. I can think of a particular Mercedes that had the spares moved from the fenders to the rear. Whatever the modifications, I can't imagine the car looked better prior to them.
  10. Perhaps a Voisin Pebble Beach best of show winner (2002) we can all agree on.
  11. I think that's a very reasonably stated opinion West. I wasn't aiming my "unappreciation" remark at you in any event. I think Steve mentioned the notchback vs. fastback distinction and I agree with both of you wholeheartedly on that point. Btw, I want to add "two tone" to the list of "use carefully or not at all when restoring a car". That list is next to "never use whitewalls or trippe lights or extra trunks".
  12. For great pictures and lots of info (if you are fluent in le Francais) go to the Avions Voisin Association.
  13. Hey Bob, did you get to drive it? On a side note, I've started a dedicated thread on Voisin since there seems to be a lack of appreciation for one of the great genius's of the prewar era.
  14. The thread on the 2011 Pebble Beach Winner (pictured below) as generated much debate on the fine (and controversial) marque of Voisin. I think Gabriel Voisin warrants his own thread. I'll post some more Voisin pictures at lunch.
  15. Sadly the 2 or so really great books on Voisin go for $500 or more so neither has made it to my bookshelf. Personally, I think this is not the best example of a C26 but I still think it's cool. That interior is not completely out of the ordinary for a Voisin.
  16. I generally regard price guides as worthless.
  17. All pre war French cars were right hand drive. And I knew you had good taste Bob.
  18. Is that Zeppo Marx's Murphy bodied S that ran at Muroc?
  19. I love them but dislike Tuckers. Go figure.
  20. Steve, I guess the Pebble Beach winner had a "aerodynamic" tail to it. Most of the C28s I've seen have the notch back. Total production of all body styles was tiny in any case. I think the fender braces are functional. Not sure if this was a cover car or not.
  21. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I almost always agree with West but I love Voisin. Not sure it warranted best of show without seeing the other cars. There is a strong European bias to that award. Btw, the rear wheel covers detract from the appearance.
  22. Apples to apples the conv will bring more (the apple being the drivetrain). For example, a 428 CJ Conv will bring more than a 428 CJ Mach 1.
  23. I don't know if this helps but I don't think that is a flattering picture of the Voisin. I wonder if that is the one that sold at auction unrestored a few years ago. Very cool cars.
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