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Thank you gentlemen. I will reach out to Mr. Obrien.
And yes, I did realize this thread was from 12 years ago, but instead of creating a new, I chose to search for existing one.
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Does anyone know if quality reproduction fuel tanks are available for PB and if yes, where would one be able to purchase them ?
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I could use some (professional ?) advise and/or collaboration from someone who intimately knows 812 transmissions.
I can be reached directly via email: ttr.timo@gmail.com
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I assume OP is asking in reference to AACA judging guidelines, to which others have already provided answers for, but in “general”, governing bodies of different clubs, events, etc often have their own and may not always be same.
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First, what is the intended purpose/use for the lift ? Maintenance, repair & service or vehicle storage ? If mainly for storage, 4-post will suffice, but for anything else, especially brake/suspension/undercarriage/etc related work, 2-post is by far more practical/useful.
Second, what type of 2-post lift are you looking to acquire (pictures would help) ? Above or in ground ? Based on your pricing suggestion, I suspect above ground.
What type of location you have for it ? In- or outdoor ? If indoor, what ceiling height you have available ?
The most common/conventional commercial/industrial type 2-post lifts usually require 12 foot ceiling height.
But to answer your specific question, I have two 2-post lifts at my shop, one conventional above ground (stationary) and one horizontal/movable (unconventional ?) and have used both for everything from 1906 Holsman or 1930 L29 Sedan to pickup trucks or late model & vintage Ferraris, lifting off or setting on bodies to frames, etc, etc and see no reason why one couldn’t be used for ‘39 Plymouth, regardless of body style.
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10 hours ago, John_S_in_Penna said:
…, I will say that absolutely no car will meet your criteria.
100% agreed.
While I’m not familiar with OPs maintenance, repair and service skills, his/her potential access to such for next 3 decades or what type of year round, “daily driving” realistically (5K, 10K, 20K a year ? 5-7 days a week, etc) is expected/intended in that timeframe, but just based on some and not a even all aforementioned requirements, as far as I know, no pre-electronics era, i.e. 50+ y.o. vehicle will fit the bill.OTOH, should he/she or someone wish to prove me incorrect, I’d be very interested to hear about it in 30 years from now and even buy them a nice dinner at a place of their choosing, just to learn about that experience. Heck, I could even eat my hat as a dessert.
P.S. Not sure if it due to my reading comprehension of OPs “requirements”, but even based on just technicalities, seems like most of the vehicles suggested by others do not qualify.
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How on earth would anybody here or elsewhere on the internet know where the title for OPs car is located and even less so, since he/she didn’t provide a VIN ???
Didn’t the car come with either ?
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6 minutes ago, M1842 said:
My two cents, You would be lucky to get $300 as it sits. And that would be scrap value.
... and I'd assume, to get anywhere near $300, it would have to include delivery to scrapyard.
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When and where I grew up, had one found something like the example Plymouth shown* in OP's photos/posts, it would've equaled to a lottery win, but now I find it rather amusing to realize/think/understand that to correctly/properly restore something like it back to "like new" condition would take more effort, i.e. time & money, than to restore any one of the 33 original Ferrari 250 GTOs, which each are currently considered to be worth $60M-$80M.
*My first ever antique/vintage car/project was as bad/sad or worse than this Plymouth, but it didn't stop me spending hours/days/months attempting to resurrect it with a shoe string budget of an orphaned teenager.
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Been there, done that.
Before you venture into repair attempts, have you checked with Convertible Service in S. El Monte (formerly in San Gabriel), California ?
They might have used pieces you're looking for (I've bought some from them before).
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Although last +/-700 miles included a use of Uhaul truck & trailer, due to another (still undetermined) poor running issue which I wasn’t able to solve roadside, we just got back yesterday from what my wife* now coined as a “Legendary !” 23 day, +/-3400 mile road trip adventure vacation traveling with our ‘PB Roadster through California, Oregon & Washington. (
* She coined our 15 day, 2756 mile trip to Yellowstone five years ago with the same car “Epic !”
While my hopes/predictions for over $10.00 a gallon prices by the end of this year may not materialize, it got pretty close.
And yes, while she runs fine with Regular, I chose Premium so she could feel being treated special.
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On 9/17/2022 at 3:04 PM, TTR said:
Day 10, 1500+ miles covered, including a 30+ mile loop around Lake Quinault this morning.
Another 1500+ miles to go, but my wife is starting to get little tired of all the attention and delays it causes.
Day 16, 1900+ miles and the original objective, Olympic Nat’l Park with 2 days/nights around Lake Quinault, 2 days/nights at Kalaloch Beach, 3 days/nights around Lake Crescent (+ few hour excursion to Sol Duc Hot Springs) and small hikes at various rain forests, etc accomplished.
An odd minor car problem occurred yesterday and was a first for me in 40+ years. The distributor rotor broke for some undetermined reason, but I just replaced with a spare I carry (and bought replacement spare today in Olympia, WA), so the adventure continues…
Everyone, of all ages and walks of life, mostly fellow travelers and/or non-old car folks we encounter at every parking lot, rest stop, etc seems to be amazed, surprised and thrilled that we’re actually traveling in a 90 year old car with +/-70 year old mechanicals, no modern creature comforts and not going to/from some car show or event.
Half (or more) the drivers or their passengers traveling the opposite direction, especially in rural highway sections, appear gob smacked and/or giving us thumb up or hang loose hand signals from their open side windows.
P.S. Does anyone here know a garage/shop or an individual vintage car enthusiast with one somewhere near or between Yakima, WA, Bend, OR or Klamath Falls, OR who would be able/willing to help with an oil change (& disposal of old oil/filter) in next couple of days ?
I have the new oil and filter and willing to compensate for the assistance. Lift is not necessary, but a drain bucket and way to dispose would be nice.P.P.S. Still the oldest car on the road.
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Ben, with all due respect but I’ve always believed the difference between “ necessity” and “hack job” is in the intent.
One for the “necessity” is a temporary roadside repair to get you home, while “hack job” is use of whatever, i.e. bailing wire, bubble gum, duct tape, etc, intended as permanent solution.
The difference may seem subtle (apparently to most), kind of like the one between collector and hoarder, but if you think about it, it’s clearly there.
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Day 10, 1500+ miles covered, including a 30+ mile loop around Lake Quinault this morning.
Another 1500+ miles to go, but my wife is starting to get little tired of all the attention and delays it causes.
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I could fill an encyclopedia or two with all I’ve encountered.
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We’re starting a day 8 of a road trip adventure in our PB Roadster.
So far we’ve covered little over 1200 miles in 7 days, basically following the western US coastline up north from SoCal and our next overnight stop will be in Astoria, OR.
As of yet, we’ve had the oldest car running on the road. Only other pre-war car we’ve encountered so far was a ‘33 Ford Sedan going the opposite direction few days ago.
Longest distance vintage fellow travelers we’ve encountered were another couple in a ‘67 Spitfire. They had driven from Seattle to San Diego and were in OR on their return leg back to Seattle. They’ve had that car almost as long as I’ve had mine, 30 vs 33 years.
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18 hours ago, Roger Walling said:
A friend of mine tried to get some Chrysler 300 windshields with the wrap around top reproduced and PPG's comment was "we couldn't make them consistently when we made them when they were new, we broke as many as we made!" BIG answer NO!
(They are available now in a modified version)
I’ve been producing and selling them to hundreds of cars on every continent for over 25 years now.
Mine are generally considered having far superior quality and fit than OEM (which were originally made by PPG).
And yes, there are cheaply made (China ) alternatives with less than adequate fit and form available at lower prices, but what kind of true antique car enthusiast would abuse their pride and joy installing something like on theirs that is beyond me.
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On 9/8/2022 at 10:52 PM, Ozstatman said:
Forum member TTR says he makes windscreens. Maybe he can provide some advise?
Yes, I have over 25 year experience producing curved, including compound shape windshields, rear windows and side glass for custom, obsolete, one-off, unique, small production applications. Have been commissioned
to do many for cars shown at GNRS, Pebble, etc.
Creating a template, should no existing glass be available for one, can be more complex than most realize.
Some of the custom fabricated templates clients have provided in attempt “to save money” have been beyond mind boggling with countless hours/days/etc spent on something completely unusable, while some have been “sort of close”, but if a a mold or an actual glass were to have been made off them, they wouldn’t had fit even close.
Bottomline: Any custom shape, curved windshield, side or rear window can be created or replicated, but not necessarily inexpensively.
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12 hours ago, Xander Wildeisen said:
Does everyone figure the travel expenses in the total cost of the car? If you buy a car for $10,000, and travel expenses are $1,300. Are you in the car $11,300? Or is the $1,300 just looked as money spent on the trip, and not the car.
Most enthusiasts probably don’t, unless they pay someone else to haul it.
Just like most enthusiasts/hobbyist who rebuild/restore a project car themselves, usually don’t figure in the cost of their own labor when evaluating the end result.
You know, buy a project for, let’s say $5,000, pay $1,000 to get it home, spend $30,000 on parts & subcontractors (body & paint, upholstery, etc) along with 10-20 hrs per week for few years in the garage laboring away, i.e. 500-1000 hrs/year at $XX/hr = $?????.
So what is the total cost of a project car when all done ?
I have a dear friend who 30+ years ago, right after an early retirement, decided to build record breaking race car, which he did and eventually even got the record.
Afterwards, he stated having accomplished it all with about $25,000, but failed to factor in that for the first 5-6 years of the project, he leased a shop space which he remodeled to his liking (spending time and money, bought a mill, lathe, numerous other equipment and tools and spent 40-50 hrs a week in that shop designing, fabricating/machining, etc parts and components for the car.
Then he took a break and spent couple of years to built another shop at house he bought and remodeled (while still making monthly lease payments for the first shop).After moving to his new house and shop, he spent few more years for 40-50 hrs a week working on finishing the car.
So when I suggested him having spent several hundred thousand dollars on the car and to accomplish the record, he didn’t want to hear or view it in above fashion, but eventually admitted my logic.
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Without any specific car in mind or sight, flew 13+ hrs to another continent I had never been before, then spent about a week or so to find one (a 26 year old vintage car*) for $2500.- (my maximum budget, although went way over it because I ended up also buying a parts car, which I disassembled and packed most of into the primary car over two day period).
Then, couple of weeks or so later, drove it nearly 3000 miles in four days, before shipping it across the ocean to the continent I lived in at the time.
After making shipping arrangements, spend couple of days sightseeing before flying +/- 10 hrs back to home.
While I've done numerous other long travel distance acquisitions of vintage cars since, this was my first and longest distance and did it when I was 21 (almost 40 years ago) with a bank loan** (just on my word and no collateral, manager apparently believed in me enough and took a chance).
* After hearing our ongoing trip itenirary at the time, including our plans to drive 3 vintage cars we've just bought within past two weeks, the guy (a two tour Vietnam combat Veteran) I bought mine from proclaimed we definitely weren't any pu**ies, gave us map book and long list of phone numbers of his friends along our intended route, all whom he assured will assist us "without a doubt or questions" along the way should we need any (while we did experienced some car troubles, didn't call anyone).
** Didn't have enough*** money to do it without borrowing more than half of the dough, but what an experience and well worth it (eventually sold the car and paid off the note early).
*** I was born into and grew up with almost nothing and proudly still have most of it.
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On 8/30/2022 at 9:05 PM, Studemax said:
Most of the stuff on the net is crap, so no surprise.
While I don't spend much time "on the net", I tend to agree and you can see my thoughts on this below.
On 8/30/2022 at 9:24 PM, 1937hd45 said:Lost another minute and a half of my life.
Although I didn't take the bait from Rusty Pucker* suggested link, I can relate to wasting time, as I do that and more, almost every time I glance at what's being generally discussed or posted about on couple of the (alleged) antique/classic/vintage car related forums I periodically visit, including this one.
Actually, I'm probably wasting time posting this too.
* I can't help but wonder if he/she is an alter ego of or related to Twisted Undies.
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On 8/29/2022 at 9:38 AM, carbking said:
Update - ran this poll on three different automotive forums.
Folks on the forums voted about 75 percent paper, 25 percent plastic.
But I asked the same question to those calling about or ordering rebuilding kits; and these folks voted approximately 85 percent plastic! The exceptions basically were repeat customers who were aware of our kits and customer service; the newbys wanted to see the parts.
So I guess we will stick with plastic for the foreseeable future.
THANKS to everyone who responded, and shared their opinions.
Jon.
Glad you found a solution YOU are comfortable.
I also like you exposed the difference or reality between interweb peanut gallery and those who actually put their money on the line.
As I've mentioned elsewhere, I reproduce, sell and ship obsolete (curved) windshields and other (curved) windows for variety of 50+ year old vintage cars around the globe and in 25+ years doing it, I've researched/studied/tried various packing methods, but basically have been using the one I originally designed for the purpose, a wooden crate made of 2x2s and plywood, individually custom built for each shipment. Most domestic orders are shipped with truck freight and most international ones by ocean freight, although the sea fair delays in recent years, coupled with some price negotiations I've managed with couple of air freight providers, latter has become a bit more popular for international orders.
As for the packing, while perhaps excessively heavy (the crates usually weighs more than twice than their content, usually a single windshield), anyone who calls or email me back after receiving their order is usually amazed and appreciative of the strength of the crate and efforts I put into building one.
And in 25+ years, I've only received a one claim (I've mentioned it here before) of windshield having arrived cracked, though I'm 99+% sure it was bogus.
Bottom line: In my opinion, packing something well and strong for shipping is always better than using any cost cutting considerations.
Like all other things in a persons approach to business and/or personal matters, packing and shipping are also a reflection of that persons integrity.
I couldn't tell how many shipments of all sorts of stuff, big and small (some even quite fragile/rare/unique/valuable), I've received from businesses and individuals over the decades that made me think it must've been packaged by someone with a single digit IQ or something.
P.S. While I too am relatively concerned about the environment and impact our (humans) stupidity has on it, I'm probably also far more conscientious about recycling and/or not creating unnecessary waste than most people here.
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I find electrical/wiring jobs like this quite enjoyable and while I've done some pre-war boats and cars (mostly from scratch, including drawing my own color-coded diagrams), most of my experiences are on vehicles with much more complicated and comprehensive systems than found on anything pre-war.
Try wiring (from scratch) a '50s/'60s American luxury limousines with Italian made coachwork or early '70s V12 Ferrari models for which factory issued at least 4 different wiring diagrams during the models production timeline, but none are nowhere near complete nor correct, not to mention the cars themselves having been built with different wire colors and unexpected changes of them hidden somewhere in the loom, which in itself is almost entirely made into a single form and requires a large part of the car to be disassembled for removal and/or installation.
But like Ed pointed out, it's the broken, incorrect or missing components at the end of various wires that makes these jobs at times much more difficult and time consuming than one might think, especially if needed/required replacements are something close to unobtainium.
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Looks like another click bait thread with nothing to do with "Antique" cars from Twisted Underwear.
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PB fuel tank.
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Thank you for the reply Mr. Lay.
While a fabrication is a viable option which I could accomplish myself, I think buying one, if they exist in reasonably good quality, would be easier.
Anyone else ?