B Jake Moran

1929 Buick Roadster - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive... (craigslist.org) 1929 Buick Roadster...95% complete car..needs total restoration

1923 Dodge Brothers 4 door convertible - cars & trucks - by owner -... (craigslist.org) For sale 1923 Dodge Brothers Touring, Convertible sedan 4 door, 3 speed manual transmission, running drive ready, no rust, everything works, start anytime, new top, new ribs in top, new seats front and back, new fenders, new lights, new running boards, new floor boards, new cowl selection, new splash guards behind running boards, all tires excellent w rims,engine transmission excellent, Great running vehicle, 13999$ Obo, or trade, clean green mi title on hand.(5863440361)

1938 Hupmobile Sedan - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive... (craigslist.org) Model ES Sedan, flathead 6 cylinder engine, 3 speed manual transmission. Very sold car, no rust, very complete car. Has some dings and scratches. Runs and drives. Excellent restore project. Other info on car see pics and contact info.

1923 Buick - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive sale (craigslist.org) Very nice folks. I have spoken to them and have the phone number. Been for sale for 2 years with no takers. Started at $22,000, now, I don't know but maybe $14,500 buys it. Very few buyers? I don't get it. Rare Model 23-six-48 Opera Edition. 3 owners. Running condition. Fisher body. Will consider best offer.

(10) Marketplace - 1938 Buick series 40 | Facebook From Druk, a dubious MN dealer, but it looks like a nice car. I like the 2 doors with those large viewing back windows. Of course when I see this I think of that beautiful 1937-38 Century from Minnesota that kept dropping from around $22,000 to the teens. (On this forum)

Well 1973 Centurions with the 455 are my favorite even though there is little difference between the LeSabre and the Centurion. I've had a lot of favorite cars but I wish I never got rid of my Polo (Hunter) Green metallic with dark saddle interior 73 455 Centurion convertible. I got it out of the Quad Cities in Iowa. It sat on a concrete slab in a barn before barn finds were a thing. 55,000 original miles. Straight, complete.

Rust depends on where it comes from. My 66 that I restored had rust out in the front pans, where driver and passenger feet were. Not bad, easy patch - Missouri car. There is I believe over 300 feet of vacuum hoses on this car, and Eldorados/Rivieras. (I have restored a 68 Riviera as well). So all those need checked and periodically replaced. These are complicated cars with all sorts of issues that are usually bad by now - A/C likely inoperative on 99% of them and most have auto temperature. Cruise likely inoperative. The 425 is a good motor but will need rebuilt for optimum reliability if over 90,000 miles. Rockers and heards somewhat soft metals mean many have heads redone. Transmissions are stout. 66 has single master cylinder and 66 has poor brakes, drum brakes. Basically Cadillac waited 1-2 years and let Olds introduce the car. Cadillac Eldorados had dual master cylinder brakes, sometimes disc brakes in 1967 and most if not all 1968 Eldorados have disc brakes. Most northern bodies will have some rust behind rear wheels. Toronados are very angular. Many have scrapes and small dents. They are fast. My rebuilt 425 was massaged with Mondello parts and likely put out about 425 hp. Front end would get up on hard acceleration and at 105 the front end would raise making steering and handling a bit suspect.

I’ve owned 2 1966 Toronados and one 1967 Toronado. One of my 66s I restored as my project car in my 2nd year of auto tech school. I personally prefer manual windows. You either buy Toronados as well preserved originals and pay $15,000 or as restored ones at $20,000. This guy is ready to bail, he has had enough draining of his wallet and a person would spend another $12,000 to get a $12,000 car. So just spend an extra $4,000 or so and get a spectacular Toronado.

Would there be family members at the residence to help load the car? It is in California, I am in Iowa. Transport would need arranged. A while back Ed (Ed in Massachusetts) suggested an eBay auction. That’s a good idea.

The GTO would be fun as a - well - restomod. I hate that term but look - it probably has or had a 400. Or was it 350 4 barrel. TH350. Likely no posi. Does it have buckets, console. These post true muscle car era cars need the gee gaw features. That’s why the faux shaker hood scoop is on an otherwise boring Nova.

Pretty rare and the equivalent of a Buick Special. Price? I’m not sure since it is non running. Brakes, gas tank all fluids. That’s $4,000 right there. Tires? But 8 cyl Oldsmobiles don’t come along often.

We all agree this is beautiful so why has it not sold? Price.

Ha no way. A nice $4,500 car.

It is a nice looking car. Has an Auburn front end look to it. To me anyways.

So Packard made 7p cars in all series?

Compared to a Ford Model A and such, it’s neat.

And I see one of those goofy looking aluminum radiators and an alternator.

That's a good point. I am 58, and I am out of the old car hobby, but I enjoy watching asking prices, and what cars sell for. This sort of car - a 1920's to 1930's late 2/4 door sedan - would be crickets at Scottsdale, etc. Not that is the bell ringer for the hobby but you don't see Wayne Carini restoring 1931 Pontiacs. There is a Pontiac Oakland Club (POCI) and 30 years ago one of those 8,000 members would grab this car to restore and enjoy, but that club is well less than that and is focused on muscle cars. So - value in terms of asking and getting prices reflects trends since about 1996, the speculation years where people were buying cars and art and homes for a hedge against inflation and the economy in general. I for one am "OK" with seeing prices drop back to where a person can afford one of these buys for the sole purpose of nostalgic enjoyment. How much of what cars asking prices are - is the result of "funny money" that is way beyond what a fellow purchased the car for and has in maintenance and restoration costs - if any? Well, I'll be watching to see what happens in the next 20 years, God willing, and we'll see how it goes. Thankfully, I will be gone when the hobby is in it's Zenith, 50+ years from now.

Yeah, he was starting to Hot Rod it, what a shame people don't appreciate what they have. I know it's a closed car, but I would love to own a 7 passenger closed 1930's "high end" car. I don't know Packards like most of you, so the "1104" limo means nothing to me BUT I have to believe it had a good Packard 8 cylinder in there.

Probably appraised for estate settlement purposes. You have to find that rare guy that wants it. If it sorts out, then it would be a fun $10,000 car. But this is the kind of car, in my opinion, that will be a $5,000 car in the next 15 years when virtually every one will not be interested and electric cars will dominate the roads.

It’s pretty cool to have the original owner plate on there.

Was the Dynaflow for a small Buick (248/263) the same as the one they put behind a 320?

At a huge cost. To the buyer. If I wanted the car I would make an offer to the seller. $18,000. The seller says “what, I only want $16,500”. I say - I want YOU to remove that abomination off the rear and make the car normal.

No way. I won’t even post ads with Continental kits.

I would think a Drivers Club member would grab this to restore.