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Thanks for the replies. I've had some inquires on both but nothing more yet. Priced fairly as we want to thin out the fleet and free up some garage space. I might try to get more pictures posted this weekend.

1938 Pontiac Touring Sedan Original drive-train (6-cylinder & manual 3-on-the-tree), Maroon exterior (older repaint), Tan interior (original). Car is a driver and driven but not perfect. Please reply directly to email below (preferred) or text with questions. SOLD Located in Coralville, IA Lee Lautzenheiser lalautzenheiser@msn.com 319-333-4064 (text only please)

1941 Pontiac Torpedo Coupe -- SOLD Original drive-train (6-cylinder & manual 3-on-the-tree), Black exterior (older repaint), Tan interior (seats recovered, rest is original). Car is a driver and driven but not perfect. Please reply directly to email below (preferred) or text with questions. Price is firm at $10,500. Located in Coralville, IA Lee Lautzenheiser

Correct, there was no external oil filter offered from the factory. There was an internal oil cleaner (filter) at that time and it was designed to be cleaned at 100,000 miles or whenever the oil pan was dropped. Information from my 1941/42 manual.

Here are two that I use quite a bit for Pontiac specific parts to keep my Pontiac fleet going: California Pontiac Restoration 877-504-8124 cpr@dcninternet.net Kurt Kelsey 641-648-9086 kelsey@prairieinet.net Many of the chassis items are standard GM though and can be found through your local parts store or online. A GM interchange manual may be of help as well to cross reference. Also if you are a member of AACA then look at the Oakland-Pontiac Worldwide Chapter as they are for 1958 and older Pontiacs. http://www.oaklandpontiacworldwide.com/ It is great to see you save the car, get it on the road and enjoy it.

P8KB = 1942 Streamliner 8-cylinder built in Pontiac, MI 4701 = Production or Serial Number (there were 21,927 of the Streamliner 8's built) 42-2607 = 1942 Sedan Coupe - standard trim & finish. (if there was a "D" at the end then it would the Chieftain or Deluxe trim & finish) Body No. 3023 = ?? Trim No. 150 = ?? Paint No. 14 = two tone paint, Lucian Gray Upper, Beverly Gray Metallic Lower Top 8 = ?? Accessories AK = ?? I do not have a 1942 specific book to decode the rest.

A = Hydro-Matic in Star Chief

Have you tried Kurt Kelsey? He has large selection of NOS parts. Antique Pontiac Parts 14083 P Ave., Iowa Falls, IA 50126-8686 (641) 648-9086 kelsey@prairieinet.net

For the Pontiac: Style 42-2511 = 6-cylinder Torpedo (model) two door sedan, 1942 model year I can't quite make out the number on the tag for color but here is a link http://www.earlytimeschapter.org/42colorchart.html P = Pontiac, MI 6 = Six cylinder I would need to look at my reference books for the rest, I will try to do that this weekend.

Your welcome. Keeping them for your collection sounds like a great plan as I would do the same. They are nice emblems to have, somewhat rare but not worth a lot at the end of the day to most people.

As far as value, I'm sure there are others who can probably give a better estimate than I can but the various Pontiac newsletter classifieds show 1950's NOS trim or emblems going for around $40. Other than pitting your emblems appear to be in good condition (not broken and studs intact) so they are candidates for restoring. I do not know of anyone at the moment who is looking for those specific emblems but if you are interested in selling and would like I can have an ad put into the Early Times Chapter newsletter of POCI or the Oakland-Pontiac Worldwide Chapter newsletter of AACA. I personally think the emblems would look nice cleaned up and attached to wooden plaques for display but then again I do not have a car that needs these emblems. The car pictured is a little rough but there is quite a bit of salvageable parts.

From reference books that I have it looks like 1951/1952 used this emblem on the front doors and 1953 used them on the front fenders. In both cases it was for the base models without the chrome spears running down the sides. You see more vehicles with the spears so not as many examples of these emblems. Lee

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You have a Pontiac Chieftain. There should be a tag on the firewall/cowl which would list the model, trim, and color numbers. You will need Pontiac manuals to decode or post the information online for others to decode for you. No one make new bumpers, either you will need to search out used bumpers or repair the ones you have. Also I don't think you will find new floor pans specific to the Pontiac but you may be able to make Chevrolet pans fit. There are people out there that have had to deal with this, I have not. Most mechanical parts are not too hard find but the Pontiac specific trim can be a challenge if you need to replace anything. There are a few clubs dedicated to the older Pontiacs: the Oakland-Pontiac Worldwide Region of AACA http://www.oaklandpontiacworldwide.com and the Early Times Chapter of POCI (Pontiac Oakland Club International) http://www.earlytimeschapter.org If you are in need of some specific information let me know as I have some reference books that would apply.

I have not had a chance to look through my books but I checked http://www.pontiacsafari.com and V77 would match up with 5577 from the manuals. It is a "baby blue" (lower) and a very light grey (upper) with red wheel. 5577 Marietta Blue Castle Grey Carteret Red

I own several Pontiacs including a 1941 coupe (6-cylinder) with the rest being mid-1950's era. There is a data plate in the engine compartment (on the firewall) that will list the body style, trim, paint, etc. I do not know how it compares to Buick plates but I would assume it would be similar. To decode you can use a Pontiac parts book or manual from the era or there are a couple Pontiac books by John Gunnell which would be helpful. Mechanical parts are not too hard to find to keep the vehicle operational however if you are looking at vehicles which need work and you are in need of trim pieces and the like those can be hard to come by. As far as the 6-cylinder vs 8-cylinder... they make similar power with the 6-cylinder being more available. The 8-cylinder engine didn't become a big seller until after WWII. There is nothing specific that I would look at compared to any other make/model of car other than if you are getting a project car make sure the trim pieces are there. There are a few clubs dedicated to the older Pontiacs: the Oakland-Pontiac Worldwide Region of AACA http://www.oaklandpontiacworldwide.com and the Early Times Chapter of POCI (Pontiac Oakland Club International) http://www.earlytimeschapter.org If you are in need of some specific information let me know as I have some reference books that would apply.

I do not know if this is still available but this is from the Early Times Chapter March newsletter of POCI... 1935 Pontiac series 605, 8 cylinder, 2 door coupe, black. Car history - restored in the 70’s. won a Senior 1st. in 1977. Pictured in Crestline Pub. and Auto-mobile Quarterly. Recent work - new gas tank, radiator, fuel pump, water pump, carburetor and all tires and tubes. Asking price $23,900.00 Vaughn Skoog (610) 367-0554 The picture looks nice, I would consider it if I was in the market for a coupe. Lee

You are correct, it looks like the radiator emblem (below radiator cap/ornament). Pontiac used these on the 1926 to 1928 cars.

I used the hook trick to clean out the sludge out of my '54 when I bought it but the car was running (just not driven more than a couple times a year). After doing that and an oil change we haven't noticed any issues. It did need a good tune up though. Can't help you with posting pics - I haven't tried to do that. We got 8" of snow last night and high temps of -9 for the next day or two. Not happy but we got off easy in December, just have to make it through the next two months.

How long has it been since it was last ran? The safest bet, in my opinion, is to drop the oil pan to inspect and clean BUT at a minimum drain the oil and look at what is in the pan through the plug hole... if there isn't much sludge then you are probably OK just changing the oil for the time being. Also look at condition of oil - it can tell you if there are other issues that you may need to look into.

BTW - congrats on your purchase. The data I provided was from the Standard Catalog of Pontiac by John Gunnell. A lot of information about the Pontiac models from 1926 to 2002 and it is still available. I own a 1954 Pontiac Star Chief Sedan (also a 1956 Chieftain wagon and 1941 Torpedo coupe). My wife and I enjoy driving our cars - always get compliments, people talk about not seeing these cars on the road anymore. You don't state where you are located but if you are near Michigan, the Early Times Chapter of POCI is having their annual gathering (Flathead Reunion) after Labor Day in Muskegon. We are relatively new to the Pontiac group but have enjoyed talking to several of the members. 2015 will be our first Reunion.

Style: 54 (1954) - 2511W (2-Door Sedan) D (Deluxe) VIN: F (Framingham, MA Assembly Plant) 8 (8-cylinder Engine) Z (1954) H (Hyrdamatic Transmission) 2272 (Unit Production Number) I recommend the Pontiac Chieftain Club on Facebook and the Pontiac 1950's Group on Yahoo Groups - there are several people on those sites that have a wealth of information. Also I recommend joining POCI (Pontiac Oakland Club International, www.poci.org) if you haven't done so. They are working hard to make the club better including improving their Smoke Signals magazine. Lee

Here is a couple other resources to try... http://www.spaamfaa.org/ SOCIETY for the PRESERVATION & APPRECIATION of ANTIQUE MOTOR FIRE APPARATUS in AMERICA http://fwdseagrave.com/ Seagrave website - they are still in business