R W Burgess Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Just moved this here. Now, I just received my AutoWeek in my mailbox. It even has a "protective cover". Why doesn't highclass magazines have this? Anyway, I open to the front page, and the new Camaro concept is shown. There is more than one post on this forum mentioning the loss of GM's vision. If they go with the front end styling shown in this magazine, they may as well hang it up. I've always hated an eggcrate grill, and this concept has it in spades. Sorry Chevy, it's just plain ugly. Mid year Corvettes tried every style they could think of in the mid 60's and none ever looked like this. Take a hint Chevy, look back at some old Corvettes and see why they are still so popular. Photo courtesy of Autoweek.ComWayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Kinker Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I think the Challenger concept beats this Camaro hands down !! In fact, it beats the $%^& out of it. The 69 Camaro was a great looking car. (I had one) but this THING just doesn't cut it, in my opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novaman Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 It'd look half way decent if it was just ugly. Unfortunely if you compared uglyness with the wicked witch, she'd looked like Cinderella next to this car. Save...save...save.. save... little closer to getting that Challenger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted January 19, 2006 Author Share Posted January 19, 2006 That was my opinion guys. That challenger is tops in my book. I'm sure the Chevy guys are checking all forums for responses on thier new toy. Better go back to the drawing board, guys! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Guy Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I saw both the Camaro and the Charger at the Detroit auto show on monday. There is no doubt that GM needs some new designers! The Camaro is butt ugly and the new charger is the slickest lookig new car out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 You Chevy guys really don't need a Ford guy to confirm what you already know do you? Steeling styling from Chrysler is understandable, but the idea should have been to make it BETTER looking. If that old saying is true about how GM goes so goes the nation we're in DEEP DoDo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest De Soto Frank Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 "As GM goes, so goes the Nation..." ?You mean "down by the bow," as they say in nautical circles...?Well, there's an awful lot of folks driving "Dummers"... I agree about the new concept Camaro...the body isn't too bad, but that grille kills it. On an Old MoPar forum, we had this discussion, and someone posted a photo of a '68-'69 Camaro, and while the original had an egg-crate grille, it looked a lot better than this concept version! This one looks like they borrowed it from a '90s Chevy truck or a recent Caddy STS...As for the new Charger, I LIKE it...and that's saying something, because I never really cared for the original (or any of the c. 1970 muscles cars, frankly). The new Charger is a very smooth, very clean design, with all the right elements of the original...Here's a link to another site for a look at the return of a once-proud marque... http://www.avantimotors.com/studespecific.htmIn case the link doesn't work, we're looking at the Studebaker XUV...which looks like it's built on a Ford truck chassis, with Ford running gear...at least that's what I surmise from features such as "Triton engines" and "Twin I-beam Suspension"... wonder if it also has "Climatizer" or "Hill-Holder" ? FATM, anyone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketDude Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I guess this proves the old adage "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" The picture here is the first i've seen of the new Camero, and I think it is fantastic! I'm not much into new cars, because I'm way to cheap to buy one, but I would be proud to have this one sitting in my garage! If per chance i'm wrong, and it is ugly, then remember.... Ugly is only skin deep, but a Chrysler product is Chrysler quality all the way through, and we know what that means...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest De Soto Frank Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 "but a Chrysler product is Chrysler quality all the way through, and we know what that means...... "Well, in my case, it means that it's still running 65 years and 101,000 miles later ( and un-restored at that )... I'm not sure I can defend ANY domestic automaker's "quality" in the last 35-40 years...they've ALL made some duds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rojo22 Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I think it is a nice looking car, reminds me a little more of the Ford Mustang that just came out.Before you go poopooing this one, you should hear what they are stuffing under the hood. This thing is going to fly if they actually put the aluminum 6000 under the hood. I can get by alot of "ugly" if it means I dont need a rear view mirror...LOL.....Besides, from the sound of it, this might be the only time you see the front end, if your driving a "hemi".......get used to the rear view..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted January 19, 2006 Author Share Posted January 19, 2006 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I can get by alot of "ugly" if it means I dont need a rear view mirror...LOL.....Besides, from the sound of it, this might be the only time you see the front end, if your driving a "hemi".......get used to the rear view..... </div></div> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />Hot dog, that's what we need is the good old factory wars of the early days. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest De Soto Frank Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Okay boys, pull out yer "Blue oval" or "Bow-Tie" belt-buckles and baseball caps,if ya wanna...I think the question originally was: "how does it look" ?In that regard, I think the original Camaros were better-looking cars than this new "heritage" concept...The new Mustang is not offensive to my eyes in terms of what it was modeled after.The new Charger (I think) actually looks better than the originals, IMHO.The new Chrysler 300's are kind of quirky (I want to like it, but I'm not sure I do...), but they have too many doors. (Same thing with the last Impala SS - a four-door? Un-uh.)The Chevy HHR (or whatever their retro-Burb is) - yuck. I'd rather bounce along in the buggy-sprung/babbit-pounding real thing.Let's face it; with computer controlled engine management systems, these new rides are able to pack far more punch per pound, and on less fuel than our old hi-po dinosaurs...but in spite of these engineering triumphs, the designers are producing some "dull" to "ugly" stuff (and it seems that most of those designers work for GM...)And just remember, it took the the big Three several years to knock Hudson off the top of the NASCAR hill... ( And I still don't like the grille in that new Camaro...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpushbutton Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Old Guy--I think GM has always had top talent in the design field, and there is plenty of talent there today. What they have lacked since the departure of Bill Mitchell is a design chief with balls enough to fight for great designs, as Harley Earl and Bill Mitchell did. Irv Rebicki (sp?) broke the chain, and did what the suits told him to do. enter the X car, look alike bar-of-soap sedans, etc. They have only had a few accidentally good looking cars since then. 30-40 years ago this would have been unthinkable. GM had the most aggressive styling department then, they led. Start by replacing the management with car guys who know that the product is the thing, and GM might get somewhere. I work for the across-town competition, and we want them to thrive--our whole region depends on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Well I think it's unadventurous, dated already, far too retro and lacks all imagination. Repeat that statement for the Ford GT, Mustang, and the Challenger/Charger/300C as well. The originals were popular and iconic because they were different and new, not because they looked like Model Ts with sixties touches!CiaoZak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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