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#1 michaelod

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 07:48 PM

Well I just thought I would post a couple of pictures of my 1930 Buick model 68 in it's current state of disassembly. All the bodywork has been completed and it is finally ready for paint !

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:22 AM

Nice!! Hope all goes well with the color coats.
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:34 AM

Looks GREAT Michael! Are you going to reassemble the body yourself?

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 01:51 PM

Actually the shop is going to paint the car, mount the body on the chassis as well as hang and adjust the doors. The rest I will do myself. I have been very pleased with the quality of work they have been doing but with a shop rate of $80 per hour, it is in my best interest to do as much of the work at home as possible.
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:09 PM

Mike,
Primer looks great..........

O.K. I'll bite...........What color?

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:29 AM

The car was originally "Regalis Maroon" with black fenders/aprons. It is a color that I am not to wild about so I am going to deviate from that slightly and go with a cherry red with black down below as original. May not win any awards, but then there is no point in painting your car a color you don't like. It will not look out of place in any case:

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:03 PM

Michael,
I agree and like the red better too...

I used boat paint for my 1912 Buick roadster and actually bought grey to match the original color. But my wife didn't like the gray so I took it back and got burgandy red.

A roadster needs a flashy color to look sharp anyway....

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 03:11 AM

IMG_2384.JPG Hello Michael,

The primer and the bodywork was done very well and the car with the color paint you have picked will look great.
I do have a question ...haw about the wood work how much did you have to replace and how did came out ? can you spare some more pictures as you go along ?
#2 Q How did you handled the metal trim work around the upper part of the cabin, was soldered or you have attached the trim with screws / nails?
I'm working on a similar car as well .

Thank you for sharing the steps of restorations
George

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 04:03 PM

Hello George,

To answer your questions:

Question 1) I did have to replace about 1/3 of the woodwork in my car due to insect damage from termites. Everything from the rear seat on back and several other pieces as well had to be replaced. This was challenging due to the fact that the metal seams along the sides of the trunk had to be opened up in order to facilitate replacement. The actual woodworking was not a problem for me as I am an expert woodworker with a fully equipped shop. There is a procedure to reattach the trim strips that Stuart Syme described which I used. This involves cutting off the old nails which cannot be reused in the new wood, drilling holes in the strips and countersinking for screws, then filling the holes with body filler. Are there problems with the wood in your car and if so where?

Question 2) I assume you are referring to the top trim strip. This was completely missing on my car, so I had to form one out of aluminum and used the same procedure outlined in question #1 to reapply. Note that as my car is currently being painted that will require the following process in sequence:

1 - paint the car
2 - install the top fabric
3 - install the trim strip and fill holes
4 - mask the top fabric and previously painted car
5 - paint the trim strip to match the car

Hope this helps,
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:15 PM

Hello Michael,
Thank you for the answers ...the wood work on my Buick was very dry..the car was station in Florida in a closed garage but very dry environment.
At the same time such a old car acquires a specific smell " aging" if I may say and I start changing the wood as well.
A good thing and good deal of saving money with a trade like yours in this case.
Seems like I have to do the same thing with the strips in order to secure the metal seams around the car.
One more question if I may....tell me about the upholstering ..did you purchase the material from Mac's ? did you find the color material to match the original mohair material ?
Sorry, my wiper motor is nonfunctional and one is missing...any sugestion wher I can buy and/or repair the one i have ?

Thanks George

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:10 PM

Well the car has been painted now, so thought I would post a couple of pictures in it's current state. They did an excellent job applying the paint however my choice of trim color was to close to the body color and probably does not provide enough contrast between the two. Nevertheless I think it looks pretty good. The middle picture is closest to the actual color.

Thanks,

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#12 Dwight Romberger

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 06:30 PM

WOW. Really gorgeous Michael. Did they pinstripe it for you in house? It looks like they did it before they shot the clear?

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 06:43 PM

Yes indeed. Actually they did the trim color and pinstriping first, prior to shooting the body color. The clear of course came last. As I understand it the reason for this was to have all the paint at or near the same level, thus avoiding a "stepped pyramid" effect. My painter was very experienced, literally having shot hundreds of cars. I had considered painting the car myself and would have saved a vast amount of treasure in the process, but I seriously doubt I could have come anywhere near the quality of the paint work.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:53 PM

Nice job. It looks like it has already been color sanded and buffed. You are going to have to wear sunglasses when you drive it on sunny days!

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 06:21 AM

Hi Michael,the color is great,can weight to see the car completed....is going to look gorgeous.

Question: can you tell me what size tire are recomanded for 1930 Buick series 60 Model 68 ? 650-19 or 700-19.


Thank you,George

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:33 PM

George,

Interesting that you would ask that question at this time as I just purchased tires for my car this week. I ordered Firestone White Walls, 650-19 for the car from Coker back in August 0f 2012. They were out of stock at the time and as it turns out last week the manufacturer let me know that these tires would not be available until 11/1/2013. Since I was not willing to wait a total of 14 months for the tires. I did some research into the Firestone 700-19 White Walls which I purchased due to the fact that like you, I am running with wire wheels which are slightly wider than the wooden wheels found on the majority of these cars, and thus can accommodate the wider tire. Coker recommends a 3.75 to 4.0 in wheel for these tires which falls right in line with the width of the split-rim wire wheels. Six of these tires plus tubes will set you back over $2K, so be prepared for some pain.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 08:59 PM

Mihael,
Thank you for the info.I 've been on the hunt for tires in several country from Europe,England and I found Firestone tires 4 only,the size 700-19 but none 650-19. I arrived at the conclusion that both size will fit the rim and they will look and ride well....The problem is if the 700-19 will fit the sidemount ...because the width in the fender is 7.1" If the Firestone is wider ,than you can not mount the spare tires on the side..Agree????
Universal Vintage Tire from Hershey Pa. offered Lester tire with white strip at a desent price. (650-19) Do you know anything about thi brend ?
May I ask you where you have purchased your tires from...can you give me a contact # or an e mail address. ?

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 09:30 PM

Hi George,
I went with the larger size tire on my International pickup and it would not fit in the wheel well. I left the air out and it fit fine. I bought tires from Universal Vintage Tire in Hersey. They either mounted them for free or it was very cheap. If you don't mind the drive, it might be worthwhile.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 10:08 PM

George,

I purchased my tires from Coker tire at Coker Tire - Buy Vintage Tires and Wheels . Apparently the factory only makes tires on an intermittent basis for these cars as the demand is low compared to tires for modern cars, and Firestone or their representative has not made the 650-19 WW for a while. At the present time all of that size have been sold out and are not scheduled to be produced again until 11/1/2013. Here is the response that I received from Coker when I complained about the long wait:

"Unfortunately that is correct information. Our manufacturer reserves the right to set delivery times and to move them as needed for their production. Although we are a large member of the classic market we do not hold the sway of the major tire companies that use the same factories for modern tires for today vehicles. We do expect tires to be produced and they have not been discontinued but it is a ways off due to new delivery dates. I apologize for the delay and try to keep you informed as soon as we are notified in case changes need to be made."

I too have some question about whether or not the spare tires will fit in the wells and simply won't know the answer to that until I get them mounted. Prior to that I will need to sandblast and paint my wheels so it will be a few months yet before that happens. At the present time my front sidemount fenders are at the paint shop along with my car so I can't even do a visual inspection to see how they would fit

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 10:43 PM

Michael
All very nice. This is where all the hard work starts to pay off with such a nice car.




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