Don't buy from this e-bay seller

I have purchased many items thru e-bay that is related to my 28 chevrolet.BUT i ran across a seller named '' FARMERBOB '' that claims that the color scheme info i purchased was an original.When i received it , it was a zerox copy page from autolibrary.com . I also read his other negative feed backs and other buyers were just as teed with him.BEWARE--it was a $15.50 mistake for me

Can't help but think it so I'm going to say it...I disagree with this topic being moved. The point seemed not to be selling or buying anything but to pass on an opinion and to give a heads up. Anyone else think the same or am I wrong with my thoughts ?

I'm with you buddy. I'm not very well versed in this computer stuff but in looking for things to buy and sell I think this post is in a good spot. I think it will be seen by more people in here. After all we all want to know who the bad guys are.

I agree with you Bob. This seller has 2.342 pos feedbacks & the negs are mostly crybabys. I don't think it's fair to publicly slander him like you did. Why didn't you read his 11 neg. feedbacks before you send him ALL that money?

Yeah. 11 out of 1600 is hardly 'a lot' of negs. Even 27 out of 510 isn't a lot, but it's starting to push it. It's all relative. Feedback isn't the best way to rate a seller, anyhow. Especially now with squaretrade you can remove them for $20 a shot and usually a bidder who wants their money back will agree to the FB removal to get the money or the item. My rule of thumb is to e-mail and ask a question, and the ones who dont answer or answer in a nasty or annoyed way, I don't bid on. If someone has a really high neg percentage and the negs look legit, its a reason to avoid as well.

This forum probably shouldn't become the place to bash ebay sellers. It happened to me and I didn't appreciate it - and the guy doing it couldn't tell the whole story, either. You have plenty of recourse through eBay, and if you're not out a lot of money then you learned something for the expense. Yeah, it sucks to get burned, but look at the big picture. As for eBay, it's riddled with problems and keeps getting more expensive. I have a feeling that if someone comes along with a good, equivalent auction site where they purposely go out of the way to prevent the biggest problems with the eBay site - that will take a big chunk out of their business and it will become just another site of commercial sellers with odd lots and imported junk.

I agree with you 59. Just because there have only been a POSTED 11 negative remarks, doesn't mean that there has not been other people "swindled" by this guy. Just my opinion.

and not evryone posts feedback so there stands an even better chance that he has more positives than shown.

This is the description in "Farmerbob's" paint chip auction #2215074785:

"This is <span style="font-weight: bold">two 8 1/2 X 11 sheets that have been copyed </span> from the Ditzler Paint book for Chevrolet cars for the model years from 1928-1934..It shows the Body style / body color / mouldings color /stripe and wheels / color along with the paint name and color numbers..and stripe color.The sheets list the following Chevrolet models.."

It looks like the buyer (paul6127) wasn't paying attention, and now he's vindictively slandering Farmerbob here, and also on the Chevrolet chat site. There is no mention of the words "authentic" or "original" anywhere in the description. By the way, 28 chevrolet (paul6127) has a feedback rating of 20, with two negatives!

What was that remark about living in glass houses?

I think there is a quote about buyer be ware. I don't care whether you buy on ebay, from the magazine or a swap meet there usually is no guarantee. Even new material can have flaws. I have one negative on my ebay profile and it came from a person who I turned in for not sending the product and I received a negative. So watch what you read into the appraisals and as has been mentioned try and contact the seller before bidding. i have yet to find a seller who will not provide additional information.

"antiquecar"

Absolutely correct, Jan. And I would add, while I would normally delete/remove such attacks, this one was at least civil and has been answered appropriately. As you can see from the above posts, the buyer made an error in not completely reading (and assimilating) the information contained within. Read those declarations carefully, folks. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

in response to 75 LeSabre Custom...

Yeah, you never know why people will leave a neg.. sometimes people leave them when they discover they bid an item too high. I have one myself for taking 27 days to ship... people forget that their item can't magically be mailed the instant they win, it takes time for a payment to come and it may take me a week to get to the post office.

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No kidding! I've added paul6127 to my blocked bidder list. Selling on ebay is hard enough without worrying about unwarranted global retaliation over the Internet. Thanks to 28chevrolet for the heads up.

I can't say particularly good or bad things about FarmerBob. I have bought from him on several ocassions over the past couple of years. Usually the item descriptions are accurate, though sometimes just vague enough to let us read what we want to rather than what we should in to them. I've had a few 'condition' disagreements with FarmerBob, however the items are what the auction states they are, just don't read in between the lines. Ask him specific questions, pin him down and make sure you are getting exactly what you think you are.

I emailed FarmerBob about the auction which started the thread. I told him I noticed the word 'copy' in the description, here was his response:

From: <*****>

Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 08:55:22 EST

Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #2213228759

To: <*****>

X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28

Copys......Made on a copy machine.....

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Bottom line with FarmerBob is, that while I don't always agree with his perception of condition. He has always been upfront with direct answers when I ask him questions. I generally don't do business with him these days unless he has something I can't get elsewhere, but he has never been dishonest when asked a direct question.

Here are some things to remember. This applies to all auctions, these are in no way related to experiece with FarmerBob. They are generalizations from my eBay experiences.

1) NOS doesn't mean like new... it means 70 year old parts that have at best been sitting on a shelf in a box for nearly a century.

2) If the word 'copy' or 'copies' appears in the text of paper matters, it is usually a photo copy, and from most ebay vendors is not the best of quality.

3) Feedback, positive or negative, alone does not speak to the quality of items sold. Some folks will whine about nothing, others will just not leave feedback rather than start a feedback feud. For a given feedback entry to be of any real value it needs to be objective, it is not, it is totally subjective. You don't usually know the person that left it so you have no basis for evaluating the 'objectiveness' or 'subjectiveness' of the feedback. Feedback is at best a generalization of the 'honesty' of the seller.

4) Don't count on eBays lack of action to be the same as their having investigated and resolved an issue.

And a suggestion... if there is a part you really need, and it isn't cheap... have someone who doesn't need the part review the auction ad and give you their opinion. Some of us (well at least me) tend to get excited when we find a part we need, and often lack of information is translated to assumptions on condition. Lack of information lets us assume things, don't... send emails, ask questions, if you are ignored or the answers don't match up... move on... there almost always will be another one up for auction eventually.

Rich

On the subject of EBAY feedbacks, don't just take it for granted that all positives are a good sign. I look at what items that the feedback resulted from, and there are people out there selling positive feedback. Some vendors have 10 or 15 positives that were bought, or traded. Those I also stay away from