RicFlair Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Well, every once in a blue moon I break out this item and see how many interesting guesses and ideas come about from people. I do know what this is, lets see if anyone else does. A few hints.... I own the only two in existence as far as I know. One I found buried under a thousand grease guns while picking a barn in Florida and the other was in Germany. They were produced by the Ideal Spray Company (England). Patent reads January 1927. Both designs differ very slightly and contain a check ball, spring, and diaphragm at the top. There is an adjustable piston inside the cylinder. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagefinds Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Hand operated suck and blow machine is my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Looks like a grease gun to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicFlair Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, Larry Schramm said: Looks like a grease gun to me. By far the #1 guess. Infact, I filled it with grease when I first found it but it is not a grease gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Then my second guess is that it is an insecticide or similar sprayer with the port on the side attached to a drum of product and it would be sucked into the cylinder when the handles are opened and then when the handles are brought together the check valve in the side port would close and the product would be sprayed out the end nozzle. Based on that, the sprayer on the right is missing the check valve. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicFlair Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 7 minutes ago, Larry Schramm said: Then my second guess is that it is an insecticide or similar sprayer with the port on the side attached to a drum of product and it would be sucked into the cylinder when the handles are opened and then when the handles are brought together the check valve in the side port would close and the product would be sprayed out the end nozzle. Based on that, the sprayer on the right is missing the check valve. My friend, your the first person to ever correctly guess its purpose. I cant believe it. It is a bug sprayer (at least that's the the most solid answer I have been given by someone with actual knowledge of the piece). As for the check valve, your basically correct. Only thing is I believe what your referring to in the side port is really just caked up residue. There is, however, a small steel ball in the top "cap" section that sit beneath a spring. One of the tools allows you to depress the top via a little washer to release pressure whereas the other tool does not which is odd to me. Ill take some pictures of it tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicFlair Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 Side note: I have a personal theory that this device was obsolete almost as soon as it was made. Other tools of similar function produced the same year are much much simpler in design. It did last this long without even a dent amazingly so Ive gotta give them credit where credit is due 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 If you can, post a picture of the spray end of the tool. It would be interesting to see. By the way, when I went back and reread your description and you said, "Both designs differ very slightly and contain a check ball" figuring out what it was, was easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornge Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Ham brine injector hand pump. My search led me in a different direction. The patent date is January 1827, Worcester, Mass. Looking for the SDG Ideal Spray co in Worcester yielded no results. Interestingly though, in the 1830s there was a fire at the patent office, destroying records for many years of filed patents, 1827 would fall in that category. I began looking for "pumps" & "bellows" on archive.org. I found an 1880s catalog for hardware and farm equipment. They had "ham preserving" injection set-ups that look like improved models. If the tool has an orifice to accept a tube or needle-type apparatus, I would put my money on brine injection pump. Respectfully, JP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicFlair Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 Thats great investigating. I would only disagree based on the picture you provided. That tool seems heavier and the base hints that hefty leverage is needed judging by the base being made for a table top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted Shifter Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) Rats! I thought you might have had a tool to help me "AI" my cows. ....and I don't mean "Artificial Intelligence". Edited January 8 by Twisted Shifter (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dort Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 The stamp says "PAT'D JAN. 18' 27", as in January 18th, 1927. I don't think they had color printed labels in 1827. Here's the original patent: https://image-ppubs.uspto.gov/dirsearch-public/print/downloadPdf/1614777 It doesn't specify a specific purpose, just general spraying of whatever liquid you want. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Could have been used as a chemical sprayer to defoliate cotton, weed killer or spray for bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicFlair Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 On 1/8/2024 at 7:34 AM, Nate Dort said: The stamp says "PAT'D JAN. 18' 27", as in January 18th, 1927. I don't think they had color printed labels in 1827. Here's the original patent: https://image-ppubs.uspto.gov/dirsearch-public/print/downloadPdf/1614777 It doesn't specify a specific purpose, just general spraying of whatever liquid you want. Wow, great work! So it is infact an insecticide/paint/anything sprayer. How interesting 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHuDWah Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 On 1/9/2024 at 6:33 PM, RicFlair said: Wow, great work! So it is infact an insecticide/paint/anything sprayer. How interesting Your finding one in Florida lends credence to it being an insecticide/herbicide sprayer - we have plenty bugs and foliage here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicFlair Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 I find it odd that the other one was in Germany. I wonder if that was just an antique store by while he was in America or if it had a reason for being there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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