ID Convertible and Van

[WWII Cars]

This is my first post, so I apologize if it is not in the correct thread.

 

I need help to identify two separate vehicles.

 

1.  French Convertible destroyed in 1940, it resembles a Mathis PYC Roadster, but there are other French model vehicles that have a similar smooth trunk and spare tire on the back.

 

2.  German van in Russia 1941/42, it resembles a Fordson E83W.

 

 

Edited November 17, 2018 by WWII Cars (see edit history)

[nzcarnerd]

The truck is either Studebaker or Dodge. Might take some research.

[WWII Cars]

Really good direction with the Dodge!

Here is what I found, 1936 Dodge 0.5-ton Panel Delivery.  The front grill looks similar, what do you think?  

 

Do you know if these were made in Germany or if they had access to these vans prior to the war?

http://www.autogallery.org.ru/gdodge.htm

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[keiser31]

I don't think the truck is a Dodge. The car looks like a Model A Ford.

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[WWII Cars]

Here is a Model A Ford - 1931 Slant Window Cabriolet 68C - what do you think, is it close?

http://classicvehicleslist.com/ford/412256-1931-ford-model-a-cabriolet-68c-slant-window-rare-hot-rat-rod-scta.html

https://model-a-ford.org/resources/technical-reference/general-information/19301931-open/

[Dave Mellor NJ]

The convertible can't be a Model A as it has door frames with the top down. Is there any kind of car that has the frames independent of the roof? I suppose it could be a sport coupe with a hacked off roof but some other things don't look A like the steering wheel and the wheels

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[keiser31]

22 minutes ago, Dave Mellor NJ said:

The convertible can't be a Model A as it has door frames with the top down. Is there any kind of car that has the frames independent of the roof? I suppose it could be a sport coupe with a hacked off roof but some other things don't look A like the steering wheel and the wheels

It sure looks like a 1928 Ford sport coupe to me. If you look closely, you will see the curved spokes on the steering wheel. Yes, it has newer wheels. Here is a similar car....

[keiser31]

I think the steering wheel may look different on the car in question because it blends into the background a bit on top.

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[WWII Cars]

Great suggestions gentlemen!  So it may very well be a 1928/29 Sport Coupe or Cabriolet.  I found these 2 drawings that might help from https://www.rods-customs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=17075&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=77c43a476b3dbe2928e58a6356438009. 

 

The question is would this model be available in France in ubiquitous enough numbers to get caught up in the crossfire of a firefight in a random French city?

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[dictator27]

Truck is 1938-40 Studebaker.  Dodge headlights are mounted on radiator shroud.  No evidence of that here.  Studebaker headlights are mounted on fenders.