bobg1951chevy Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Looking for a factory equipped 409, 4 speed, 2 door sedan. A driver, NO PROJECTS. P.M. with equipment, color, condition, mileage, known history and price. Edited January 6, 2017 by bobg1951chevy (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Try these forums https://www.facebook.com/groups/406019856199113/ http://www.348-409.com/forum/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/174333742653749/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobg1951chevy Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 4 hours ago, countrytravler said: Try these forums https://www.facebook.com/groups/406019856199113/ http://www.348-409.com/forum/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/174333742653749/ Thank you for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curti Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Beware of clones ! Do your homework. I know a guy that got stuck on one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) http://www.racingjunk.com/1960-1979/182820341/1961-Chevy-BeLair-custom-409-4-speed-posi-rear-air-bags-.html#3 Edited January 8, 2017 by countrytravler (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Curti said: Beware of clones ! Do your homework. I know a guy that got stuck on one. The only way that you can proof a real 09 car is paperwork and or build sheet. Back in the 80s, I could build a 09 car and without paperwork, you could not tell. Here is one that I cloned from a 327 4 speed car that I did in 1980. The car came from a farm in OK out in the farm fields rotting away. 1/4s buried up to the rockers with red clay. The farmer blew the engine in his pickup in 65 and jerk the engine out for his truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 4:09 AM, bobg1951chevy said: Looking for a factory equipped 409, 4 speed, 2 door sedan. A driver, NO PROJECTS. P.M. with equipment, color, condition, mileage, known history and price. Are you looking for a real or cloned built? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 http://www.racingjunk.com/Chevrolet/182680578/1963-Chevrolet-Impala.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 This car is a good buy. Real or not. 20k plus if you are doing the engine and trans alone. http://www.racingjunk.com/Chevrolet/182754707/1962-Chevrolet-Biscayne.html#16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 http://www.racingjunk.com/Chevrolet/182776647/1961-Chevrolet-Impala.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 http://www.racingjunk.com/Chevrolet/182796903/1963-Chevrolet-Bel-Air.html#7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 http://www.racingjunk.com/Chevy/182777045/1961-Chevrolet-Bel-Air.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobg1951chevy Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Curti said: Beware of clones ! Do your homework. I know a guy that got stuck on one. Thanks for the "heads up". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobg1951chevy Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, countrytravler said: Are you looking for a real or cloned built? Primarily looking for a real 09, but it would (1) have to have documentation and (2) must be a 2 door sedan, no hardtop or convert. Thanks for sharing the links you found. Edited January 8, 2017 by bobg1951chevy add words. (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) On 1/7/2017 at 8:18 PM, bobg1951chevy said: Primarily looking for a real 09, but it would (1) have to have documentation and (2) must be a 2 door sedan, no hardtop or convert. Thanks for sharing the links you found. A documented 09 can run into 6 digits. Most 09s were blown up because that is what we did. We raced the dog crap out of these cars. That is why I laugh when I see a high mileage muscle car saying original engine. Your best bet would be a 340HP with a power glide because these engines were not widely abused. Forget the 1961 409 cars they only made 142 plus and most were raced and that only came with 3 or 4 speeds and they were 360HP. The blocks were very bad in 1961 and most were blown up. 1961 is a real high dollar car. 1962 also only came with a 3 or 4 speed. The option was a 380 for single carb and the 409 HP had dual carbs. 1963 was the 1st year for the power glide with the low 340 HP with hydraulic lifters. Hope this helps. If you have any questions about 09 cars, be more than happy to help. Been with the W engines since they came out in Oct of 1957. If I do not know the answer, I will find it with the connections that I have. Is this car your looking for a dream car or you use to have one? Show-race or a cruiser? Just curious. Here is an Alaska 409 plate that hangs in my office along with a 1952 Michigan plate that represents the state and year that I was born. The magazine also hangs in my office that I have had since 1963. The engine is from a boat that was famous in the offshore racing from NY to FL in the mid-60s. It's a 409 with twin turbos. Thanks Dave Edited July 11, 2017 by countrytravler (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 19 hours ago, bobg1951chevy said: Primarily looking for a real 09, but it would (1) have to have documentation and (2) must be a 2 door sedan, no hardtop or convert. Thanks for sharing the links you found. A documented 09 can run into 6 digits. Most 09s were blown up becouse that is what we did. We raced the dog crap out of these cars. That is why I laugh when I see a high millage muscle car saying original engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobg1951chevy Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 I have run across this '63 clone when searching. A nice looking car, with its rally wheels, still hoping to see a true 09. Prices I've seen range from 20k to 90k, clone to original. An original has been on my bucket list, will continue my search. Thanks C.T. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 5 hours ago, bobg1951chevy said: I have run across this '63 clone when searching. A nice looking car, with its rally wheels, still hoping to see a true 09. Prices I've seen range from 20k to 90k, clone to original. An original has been on my bucket list, will continue my search. Thanks C.T. Can you give me the info on the documented 09 for 20k?. I have a buyer. Thanks Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curti Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 13 hours ago, bobg1951chevy said: I have run across this '63 clone when searching. A nice looking car, with its rally wheels, still hoping to see a true 09. Prices I've seen range from 20k to 90k, clone to original. An original has been on my bucket list, will continue my search. Thanks C.T. I read this as: 20 for the clone 90 for the original. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Curti said: I read this as: 20 for the clone 90 for the original. OK thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Not a 63 but 64. Have you seen this? http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/delta-surrey-langley/1964-409-biscayne-2dr-post/1227890207?siteLocale=en_CA&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=vip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobg1951chevy Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 On 1/9/2017 at 0:36 AM, countrytravler said: Can you give me the info on the documented 09 for 20k?. I have a buyer. Thanks Dave As I stated above, the range I have seen is 20k to 90k, clone to original, meaning 20k is a clone, 90k is an original. I now see Curti has explained my wording. Sorry for the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobg1951chevy Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 19 hours ago, Curti said: I read this as: 20 for the clone 90 for the original. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobg1951chevy Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 7 hours ago, countrytravler said: Not a 63 but 64. Have you seen this? http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/delta-surrey-langley/1964-409-biscayne-2dr-post/1227890207?siteLocale=en_CA&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=vip I'm not a fan of '64's. If I was selling this white '64, for 85K, I would have attached a form of documentation to the ad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, bobg1951chevy said: I'm not a fan of '64's. If I was selling this white '64, for 85K, I would have attached a form of documentation to the ad. A phone call and ask for docs. That is what I do when shopping for a correct car. Very few ads will post docs. US or Canadian dollars? This may sound strange but it works when you start to get into the high dollar cars. I have done this a few times. I have the seller buy me a one-way ticket to check the car. If the car is what is claimed, I will buy it plus pay for the ticket. If the car is not what the seller describes, you buy your way home. If he hesitates to this agreement, RUN!! This can be done on a weekend. Make sure you have all the info to inspect the car. Edited January 10, 2017 by countrytravler (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I believe this is a clone. 49K http://www.webeautos.com/inventory.aspx?_search=409 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkEE Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 14 hours ago, countrytravler said: A phone call and ask for docs. That is what I do when shopping for a correct car. Very few ads will post docs. US or Canadian dollars? This may sound strange but it works when you start to get into the high dollar cars. I have done this a few times. I have the seller buy me a one-way ticket to check the car. If the car is what is claimed, I will buy it plus pay for the ticket. If the car is not what the seller describes, you buy your way home. If he hesitates to this agreement, RUN!! This can be done on a weekend. Make sure you have all the info to inspect the car. Interesting approach, I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobg1951chevy Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 On 1/10/2017 at 3:36 AM, countrytravler said: A phone call and ask for docs. That is what I do when shopping for a correct car. Very few ads will post docs. US or Canadian dollars? This may sound strange but it works when you start to get into the high dollar cars. I have done this a few times. I have the seller buy me a one-way ticket to check the car. If the car is what is claimed, I will buy it plus pay for the ticket. If the car is not what the seller describes, you buy your way home. If he hesitates to this agreement, RUN!! This can be done on a weekend. Make sure you have all the info to inspect the car. I had the opportunity to talk to a guy this past week, ad sounded like a private owner, with a cell phone, but the background noise was "an operator, over the intercom, paging for service, parts, etc". I did the one way ticket approach with him, he stuttered, wanted nothing to do with such a deal. Thank you for this approach ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobg1951chevy Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 Just now, countrytravler said: Why would there be 4 response being the same? I have noticed this more and more lately. I see one response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobg1951chevy Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 2 hours ago, countrytravler said: Earlier, there was 4. Cannot answer that issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Did you ever find the 409 car that you were looking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Smolinski Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 It's not a 2 door sedan, but I know someone that I think still has a heavily documented, restored '62 Belair bubbletop 409 car. He was trying to sell, don't know if he did. I believe about $165,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 2 hours ago, George Smolinski said: It's not a 2 door sedan, but I know someone that I think still has a heavily documented, restored '62 Belair bubbletop 409 car. He was trying to sell, don't know if he did. I believe about $165,000. This went for 90k. I was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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