Robert G. Smits
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May 23 and I haven't received mine yet. Any explanation as to why there is such a disparity in mailings or is it because I am in Texas?
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11 hours ago, Isaiah said:
THE 6 HAD MORE HP THAN THE 8
Also more low end torque which was important in accelerating out of corners or getting on "plane" quickly.
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You might also check with the vintage sprint car groups as the engine was used in sprint cars and racing boats in the era.
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Randy I hope you are getting counselling from a Licensed professional. Lets get back to cars!!!
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2 hours ago, auburnseeker said:
Only 5 more years of our life before we can kick him out.
When my wife and I married 38 years ago tomorrow we each had two kids and both received full custody. Putting the two families together required a fair amount of family counseling. A quote from our counselor that i never forgot. "you are expected to love your children, no one said you had to LIKE them" He also stressed that nothing is more important than the lasting relationship between you and your wife. Children are transitory. After I retired we took in two different foster children at different times, neither of which worked out well although we hope we instilled a sense of love and family in their memory.. No one who hasn't been there can appreciate your situation All you can do is your best.
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Agree, How about a photo of the boat?
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On 4/9/2020 at 8:06 PM, auburnseeker said:
I'm not crazy about the Cyclops look
Loved your latest photos and I like the single Pilot Ray. Had a similar set up on my 29 Cadillac Dual Cowl and have a pair on the 32 . From an asthetic standpoint it parallels the design of the human face You already have dual running lights,mirrors, headlights and horns. Dual Pilot Rays make it look cluttered in my opinion. (Which probably isn't worth much)
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What a time capsule.. Congrats
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1 hour ago, Terry Bond said:
xt me when you get one.
The new Iphone SE is available for less than $400. It is like having your own personal assistant in your pocket. You see someone on the forum mention a car you have not heard of and you say: Hay Siri show me a photo of XYZ and it comes up You can then ask for information on the brand. Not perfect but faster than going to your reference library.. Having a high quality camera to take photos/videos of you grandkids is priceless. I was at Lowes buying assorted bolts, nuts and washers. Instead of writing the code down take a photo of the bar graph for each item and the cashier will scan it on your phone. With Apple Pay you don't have to hand your credit card to the cashier who hasn't used hand sanitizer since her lunch brake and has been handling DIRTY cash all day. Ever see anyone use hand sanitizer on doller bills? The big negative as Terry mentioned is finding where you left it especially since we dropped our land line Three years ago. If this hasn't convinced you how about sitting in your doctors office or exam room for 20-30 minutes reading the AACA forum posts and replying.
Enough rambling, Have a great day and stay safe
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Somewhere between 40 and 50 years. My wife must be correct, I'm getting OLD!!!
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Steve, as a Life Member what is the best way to contribute that supports the magazine and forums I have received more than I paid since Al Edmond twisted my are to become a life member years ago. Bob Smits
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Like so many of you I used to listen to news while I went on the forums, for some time now I simply turn the TV to a music station. I hit the forums twice a day beginning with AACA-HCCA-CLC and PY forums. God bless the AACA and the people who bring it to us.
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Camping has come a long way. Precursor to the modern Motorhome. Great photo!!
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Studebaker Electric
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Just some photos of Studebaker-EMF 20
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Terry if you search for a thread by GinaW under Studebaker, Erskin and Rockne yow will see a photo of a Garford Letter Opener owned by Richard Quinn.
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5 hours ago, Terry Bond said:
All my digging turned up some interesting info
Terry, thank you for posting this subject. Most of my original research on Garford the man and the Garford automobile was 25 years ago. I still like to sit back in the shop with a glass of single malt and enjoy the cars and advertising on a quiet evening. Fond memories of old romance's that have not faded with time.
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When I lived in the Florida Panhandle one of our AACA club members was a founding member of the California HCCA and a friend of Bill Harrah. Panama City had a monthly Friday night car show and I would buy him a beer and sit and listen to his stories. I wish I would have recorded them. He also had a scrap book of autographed photos of many old time movie stars and their cars. These were taken on Bill's yearly invitation only car tour around the lake. Bill apparently loved to race anyone up the hills driving one of his favorite cars. Every couple of hours there would be an arranged rest stop in a local village. Bill would have rented several private homes at each stop for his guests to freshen up, eat lunch or have drinks Bill was apparently into illegal gambling in California, a form of Bingo, and was arrested several times. During his last court appearance the judge told him he had two choices, six months in jail or leave the state for good. That's how he got to Reno. He remembers visiting Bill in Reno when he only had three illegal slot machines in the back room of his Bingo Parlor. His business plan worked out well!!!
Disclaimer: I don't know if the above is fact or fiction but he had a lot of autographed photos and letters and was a past president of the California HCCA
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54 minutes ago, Terry Bond said:
Unfortunately I don't have a watch fob.
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Studebaker was in the wagon business for 50 years before they produced their first Electric automobile was produced around 1902. Because of this they had a massive sales network throughout the world. When their relationship ended Garford was left without a sales network. Garford also produced the chassis-engine for Andsley, Gaeth, Cleveland, Royal and Rainier automobiles. According to Harrah's literature they were unable to find any remaining 1907 models and my research hasn't turned up any either
In 1908 EMF was incorporated with the intent of producing a medium priced automobile. Studebaker liked the idea and purchased a third of the stock and obtained the right to sell the EMF through their vast sales network as Studebaker-EMF"s During the first year Studebaker sold 8132 Studebaker-EMF cars. Interestingly Electrics were not discontinued until 1911 when the company was refinanced and incorporated as The Studebaker Corporation and ended its relationship with Garford.
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13 hours ago, oldcarfudd said:
Eric Edwards in Ontario has a 1906 Studebaker. I presume it's Garford-built.
Garford built the chassis for Studebaker in Elyria, Ohio and Shipped them to Southbend where the bodies were manufactured. This ended around 1911 when Studebaker obtained controlling interest in EMF. The Flanders 20 and 30 were rebadged and sold as Studebakers
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4 hours ago, John_S_in_Penna said:
the Garford dealer in your town.
To the best of my knowledge the Garford was sold privately after Bill Harrah's death. If anyone has other information please contact me. The information re the cars being sold through a NYC Packard dealership was a personal communication with Harrah's restoration foreman. Most of the Advertising hype for the 12 and 13 model years is unsubstantiated and I suspect very few were produced.
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Unfortunately I didn't know about the sale. I have examples of about every piece of Garford advertising and have quit searching in recent years.
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Joe, thanks for resurrecting the photo of the Garford. From the Harrah records I received they extensively searched for another surviving Garford but could not find one. I have run down every lead for years without success. The ones I found are Studebaker-Garfords. From my research I suspect the "One Eyed " Garford never went into production in spite of their boasting of Orders taken at the New York Auto Show in 1913. It is speculated that the 13 Garford at the New York Auto Show was actually a 12 with the 13 front end. Garford's were only produced in 1912-13 and in very limited numbers and were sold through a New York Packard Dealership. To the best of my knowledge my Garford does not appear in any of the literature for the Harrah sales and was sold privately. I fell in love with it on my first visit to the Harrah museum in 77 or 78 where it was the feature car on a elevated round table in the lobby of the main building. I never forgot it. It re- appeared at "The Auction" in Las Vagus in 1990. A Packard collector friend and I flew out for the sale. At that time I only had $75K available to spend. The bidding opened at 5K and I immediately jumped all in and bid $75K and the bidding kept right on going. How I ended up with the car is a story for another day.
For Terry, How did Garford get his start up money to get into the Automobile business? He received the patent for the first padded bicycle seat and by the mid 1890's was producing and selling over a million a year. Isn't it interesting how many of the Automobile stories involve bicycles. For example the Duesenberg brothers had a bicycle shop on East Grans in Des Moines, Iowa before relocating to Indiana. They were responsible for the Mason and later the Maytag-Mason.
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May 27 at 4 pm. Checked the mail and still no AACA magazine. Has anyone else still not received the magazine? You can make excuses for the Post Office but something is still wrong in the system.