tbirdman

Looks like the commorant had a little much to drink and is a little tipsy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tbirdman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">$10-13K </div></div> Does it need an engine rebuild or does it just need to be brought back to life. Top dollar on a restored car is ~$30K.

$10-13K

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 65Newyorker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The thing about all of this is that there's no chance of getting the same judges each year!This to me means they will likely find different deductions each year!This could end up being a real battle trying to get a 1st Junior or Senior award! If you would like to see some pics of my car i have some posted in the photo gallery at aaca.org </div></div> You really can't tell anything from the pictures (though I hope you didn't have the fuzzy dice at Hershey). It would be interesting to see what condition the engine compartment is in. And if the next year another set of judges see more deductions, then fix those if you want to still compete. I would think that is the fun part about competing. However if you do not want to fix the flaws than DNJ and just enjoy the car. I have found out the closer I take my car to perfection, people still find things to point out as they are more obvious as the flaws get fewer and the car gets in better shape. Also don't expect human judges to find everything that is wrong. I was at a small concours this year competing aginst a 29 LaSalle. The owner mentioned that he was highly confident in his car as it had won a first palce at a National Cadillac LaSalle meet. Well these judges found his left rear fender radius was different than the right one. It had been in an accident and not fixed correctly. I wouldn't had noticed, but it was noticable once it was pointed out. He also had polished stainless steel bolts all over in the engine compartment. That should had been a major deduction in both events. I ended up winning against him, but might had not if the fender hadn't been noticed.

Don't know as the firewall id numbers would probably still show it as a 33. I believe that all of the converted 31s stll have the 31 serial numbers. When I was looking for my car 3 years ago, I did see a 33 in a collection whose fromt fender skirts had been sliced away to make it look like a 32 fender.

Thanks West. Good info. Sound a little different than the 31 change to 32 where these kits were sent out to dealers so that the cars could have a different look vs. a service letter indicating possible changes to cars. Have you seen many 33s with this change?

West, I have seen plenty written up about the 31 to 32 upgrade, but I have never seen anything in print regarding the 33 to 34 upgrade. Where did you get that info from... Also in regards to rarity, I have seen a lot more 33 and 34 open for sale than 32s for open super 8s though there are notthat many of any of the three years around. Looks like a glut of 34s here.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BillP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't recall the details, but the factory made available to the dealers a kit to transform 33s into 34s. This was in order to clear the old inventory. I wonder now if the 33s were re-titled as 34s. If so, it would artificially diminish the ranks of one and swell the other. Titling was a little more casual then, many times a car (or truck) wouldn't be titled with the model year but the sold date. I have a Porsche built in 64 and titled as a 65 for that reason. </div></div> I think the story you have is off by a few years. It was 31s that could be fitted with an V-shaped grilled thereby making it look more like a 32. The 31s had flat grill.

LOL, that steering wheel I have is from that 32 you just bought

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ken You do know that I have the power to delete posts, and that one is definitely riding on the fence. </div></div> So what's wrong with a little green? Maybe if you put a hemi in it So which one is worse?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've updated Tom's photo above with the new tires. Ken Your photo isn't coming up. </div></div> Patience

Geez, there are about 10 of these 34 Super 8s out in the world, and you both paint them the same color. How about this color...

I did receive a quote from Heacock Classic Insurance and it was about 10% less. However I know what I'm getting with Hagertys and 10% doesn't big enough to warrant a switch...not sure how much of a difference would warrant a switch though. The only major difference is we put a limit of 1K on the Cad and 3K on the Packard for miles.

It has those flashy chrome wheels that West likes. I think it looks good with the BW tires.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clipper47</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just love all Packards of any era but I would have to say that I love the 1929-31 Eight with that big flat grille </div></div> I guess this is why we all have different taste and cars. I think the V grill makes the 32-34 Packards. I also like the 32-34 coupe roadster as they look good with the top up or down with two distinctive but different looks. I also like this 34 Coupe. Not a big fan of the 5 passenger coupe, but the 2-4 coupe is a great looking close car.

My favorites are 32-34 open then... 30-31 or 37 Of course all of the pre-15s I have no desire for a 38 or newer Packard. That has more to do with styling then anything else. I just prefer the older styling.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Kaz Ken I thought I solved your restoration and storage problem by offering to do the work and store it for you... Also, I think that '32 sedan on eBay is a standard eight. We need to look for a Super Eight. </div></div> This is a std 8 roadster so we need a std 8 dean parts car. I would buy it but I don't think Superods will give me much of a trade in allowance on the steering wheel.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: superods</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You still have that darn steering wheel Birdman... That parts car have any good pieces I could use Birdman? Always interested in sheet metal ie fenders...hood...and gas tank covers. Ever run across any bumpers ? I have those two second chance fiberglass cars I need front and rear bumpers for. I hear you adopted West Birdman...are you really going to finance the parts and materials??? West you are a lucky soul to have a friend like Birdman. Heck I cannot get a decent deal on that steering wheel...been hagglin over it for months now !!! </div></div> Haggling...No, just pre-Obama pricing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Ken, if you buy the car and finance the parts and materials, I'll put it together and store it for you. In the mean time, locate that 1932 Super Eight sedan parts car you mentioned last week and send that to my address too. We'll put together a real sweet car (in a toasty-warm garage to boot). Seriously, I hate to see this car rodded, but unfortunately I can't do anything about saving it. I wish I knew a friend who was looking for just such a project. </div></div> If I had the room, it would be an interesting project, but with a full garage, it's pratically impossible not to mention my lack of patiance to do a full restoration. The 32 sedan is on ebay for a 16K buy now price. Only if I had a decent size garage or pole barn, I'd take a shot at it.

Yes, I have that reduction. Thiugh when you ask for it, they don't apply it until you renew. Now if I can find a few more deductions because I'm a member of AAA or AARP or NRA Ken

Trade you a 32 steering wheel for it.

I found a rebuilt Stewart Warner fuel pump for my 32 903 Packard. Almsot walked by the vendor as I didn't immediate recognize any Packard parts. Then I saw this fuel pump with a nice little sign with the "Kings Ransom" listed below. :oI hadn't seen one for sale in the three years I have own the car. Now my car is almost 100% correct except for that even rarer voltage regulator. I spent about 6 hours Sat walking and only barely covered one field.

I talked to Hagerty I could get a 10% reduction by having deductables. The minimal deductables would be 2.5K for the Packard and 1K for the Cad. Not sure if that wold be worth it. However the person I talked to did come back with a 12% discount which she said was a pre-war discount. I asked if the Cad could get 24% as it was pre-war-war. I probably re-up with them though it's painful as everything is due at once.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for the link. I don't know why my search never brought it up. I sure would like to have that. Hey, if I can get Ken or Tom Wilcox to lend me their car while I piece it back together, I would give it a go!! </div></div> Looking at that car, I'm glad mine is together. I wouldn't have the patience to do a complete restoration. Though it looks like a solid starting point.

I have notice things on Ebay motors. I have a search on Ebay but sometimes I will search on Motors and find more stuff.