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  1. The little bit of idle creep is probably the fuel trim switching back and forth, and over time long term fuel trim will probably stabilize the idle a bit more. A lazy O2 would also cause it to roll just a bit. Another interesting comment........the mechanically set base idle adjustment that was off would have probably been spotted by Padgett or myself in under ten minutes if actually standing in front of the car. A typed communication, and not physically being able to see in person causes a mental and visual data loss that can just about make things impossible to comprehend in a way that properly diagnoses the issue remotely.............if that makes sense.


    Ultimately it was a vacuum leak...........just a controlled one that wasn’t properly observed. And the computer control system was ultimately fine and working properly. The car wasn’t broken..........someone “broke it” by adjusting the fixed idle. 

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  2. Well one thing is certain......and impressive. The owner kept at it, he didn’t give up. That is what fixes cars. No one knows everything that could possibly have been wrong on such a complicated issue. Multiple heads and countless hours of experience is what fixed it, along with tenacity. That fact that the base idle that is mechanically set was off because some tractor mechanic hacked away at the car for some reason is not surprising. The older a car is, the more likely it is suffering from two issues.........hack mechanics and short cut repairs due to cost. I have seen it countless times. Congratulations on getting the car to perform where you are happy with it. I don’t think one percent of the people who post here asking fro problems would have gotten it to its final positive outcome.

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  3. Most 100 year old cars have no vacuum or centrifugal timing advance. Many magneto’s pre WWI also have no way to advance except by driver setting. That said, engine design and fuel of the time made adjustment necessary only at start up. Most cars with decent displacement were basically start and run positions on the steering quadrant. Smaller cars tended to get adjusted more to try and get every bit of power possible.......until accelerator pumps were installed on carburetors, timing didn’t need to be very responsive. Vacuum advance first started to become common in 1937-1938. Then there were the exotic set ups that used oil pressure to advance timing........but it was not common. 

  4. 49 minutes ago, 8E45E said:

    Those 'no-clog' running boards would perhaps be more fitting on a truck. 


    They'll be perfect for someone wearing workboots on a construction site, but not for a lady wearing high heels.



    I agree with Craig.......interesting design, but far from attractive or important in the world of automobiles. It’s a great example of one off coachwork that if still in existence it would get an automatic spot on the 18th green at Pebble. The bigger question is would it or could it win? I think it would suffer defeat in the CCCA Closed class. Unusual does not equal iconic.


  5. On 6/20/2020 at 4:26 PM, edinmass said:

    Interesting.......I met the owner of this car back three years ago while working on a Model J that failed to proceed in the parking lot of the Mount Washington Hotel in Breton Woods New Hampshire. I was under the J in the dark on a dirt lot when he came by to look at the car. I had a bad brake line........and between the mosquitos, coyotes, and the black bears, I decided to wait till morning to fix the J. While talking to him he told me about his speedster. I gave him my contact info, and two and a half years later in early January Of this year he sent me the package you have posted, along with a bunch of photos. I told him I was fairly certain I could ID the car quickly. Needless to say, It wasn’t as easy as a normal back yard build from the 30’s. While we struck out running it by my usual go to guys, I did give him an analysis of the  cars over all appeal and value. He is a true gentleman, and is the first to stump me in about 20 years. At the time, I agreed not to share the info per his request. While not a particularly valuable car, it’s an excellent example of one of the very early in the era speedsters built in a garage. My guess was the parts all came out of the scrap yard, using the best and cheapest component they could find. I also surmised that it was a rural build, as cars in a junkyard near a big city would have offered a more interesting power plant for the same money. Looking forward to see what’s turns up. Ed


    PS- unless new information has surfaced, I determined at the time it was a pre war build......but I can’t remember why.


    Interesting that there is still no identification of the power plant. I think my above analysis is still correct. Its probably just a obscure power plant that will remain lost to time. It’s rather a bare bones unit.........I wonder if there was some strange local sanction that it was raced in. Usually most road built Speedster’s would have a lot more eyeball and bling. And with such a small power plant.........it was an obvious choice not to use something bigger and more glamorous. I think this one is never going to get solved.........

  6. Insurance isn’t a problem. Geico insures my 1917 White as an every day driver at state minimum levels, no questions asked. Most states in New England will insure any car regardless of year by statute. He is probably trying to get full coverage on it because of the loan, and most old car companies won’t insure it as an every day driver.


    As far as taking it back.......that’s asinine. It’s his car, let him sell it. You can’t fix stupid. 

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  7. 4 hours ago, SC38DLS said:

    Ed be careful you could be handing over the pink slip for that Great White!  Studebaker’s had a lot of speed records back in the day. I even saw a 289 Studebaker crush a Mustang 289 owned by the younger brother of the Ford company NASCAR diver in a quarter mile drag at a track. 

    dave s 

    38 Studebaker State Commander proud daily driver owner !  



    Wasn't planning on racing for pink slips......or money. Just the fun of it. I'm quite sure the only way the White would pass the Stude is if it were inside an airplane.

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  8. 1 hour ago, alsancle said:

    Ed, they are talking about the Cab B for 600.   The last time the Melton car was for sale they wanted north of 2 BIG ones.


    That makes much more sense.................I would have expected a number in the two’s. 👍

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  9. 34 minutes ago, 58L-Y8 said:

    Young Herman C. Brunn spent some time working in France at Henri Binder to broaden this coachbuilding training and experience before returning to join Brunn as their designer.  His deft handling of the sweep panel design was one of the benefits of that training.


    I believe the correct nomenclature is “sweep spear” and written by Brunn in an article in the 70’s. I don’t remember where it appeared. Anyone know the article?

  10. Look at the venue for the above sign..........great signs go to the great auction houses. You don’t see type 57SC Bugatti’s at Mecum. For a reason. If your hunting the best stuff, you usually need to deal with well known high end dealers, or old established collectors. Diamonds in the rough are possible but rare. Usually buying from a well curated collection (of anything) is your best bet to get good stuff.

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