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Matt, I am terribly sorry that this is the direction of this project.
what about making a low ball offer on this:
swap the engines and then part out yours to try and recoup some costs. You have a running car that you can keep or sell.
just a thought.
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1 hour ago, edinmass said:
While it is certain you could order one that way, not too many people in the US did.
Because it ruins the look of the car. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
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Chromed radiator cover and headlights: 🤮
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What series: 60,70,75,80,85, or 90?
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Six of the George Whittel Duesenbergs are in this thread. What was the seventh car?
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Will be keeping my fingers crossed this morning.
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1 hour ago, alsancle said:
Is that an auburn salon front bumper on the boat tail?
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26-29 are pretty rare. You see way more sport phaetons and phaetons than roadsters.
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43 minutes ago, Steve_Mack_CT said:
So this is the same car? I think Ed or someone referred to the blue one being a CT car a while back on another thread.
Yes. There is a “similar” one, now two tone per original,I believe , but the hinges are opposite the blue one. On the b pillar. I am sure there are loads of other differences, too.
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2 minutes ago, alsancle said:
My enlightened self interest stopped me from naming Dutch as a hammer man.
Build quality in US coachbuilders goes something like this:
1. Brewster
2. Dietrich
3. Lebaron
4. Rollston
5. Murphy
6. A bunch of guys
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99. B&S
After I buy a B&S Duesenberg I will edit this list so please do not quote me.
How about derham?
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I love reproduction cars. I am thinking of SWB 250 Ferraris, the recent Jaguar reproduction cars. I think muscle car clones are cool, and have no problem making a hemi car out of a 318.
BUT, they are what they are. And to not understand why and original car is worth more and more desirable I find puzzling.
Yes, a bitza Duesenberg is cool. But not as great as something that was originally produced in 1929.
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25 minutes ago, John_S_in_Penna said:
Is that picture of a Duesenberg that still exists today,
or a picture of J356 before it had its new body installed?
If a car was rebodied by a coachbuilder while the car
was in general use, that's a bit different. That's still a
part of history--not something Joe Smith's restoration shop did
because the owner wanted a more "expensive" looking car.
And remember that these cars were often unwanted,
inefficient cast-offs by the World War II period, so it's not
likely that many were rebodied by coachbuilders long past
their original production date.
Pretty sure that is the style of the car the engine of the Billings green tourister came from that started the thread. In other words, a Duesenberg with that body was disassembled and the engine was used to create a Derham tourister in the first post.
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10 minutes ago, Flivverking said:
So lets take a 1929 Duesenberger chassis sold in 1932 .Custom Body with a not too bad looking low roof sporty sedan body..
It gets rolled over in 1939..and rebodied to a all weather phaeton(roll up windows with convertable top) or it sits till after the war and gets rebodied or a discarded sedan body fitted in 1949
That car is no good now?
There have been Rolls Royces built in the teens and rebodied 3 times up to 1942 to keep up with the times.
So those are shxt cars?
I would not say that the car is “no good.” It is a Duesenberg. But the market will place a large discount compared to a no issue car.
Rolls Royce and especially Bentley are different markets.
Each car has its own market. Look at corvettes where they care about the casting dates of various components to be a “numbers” car. Most other car markets consider a frame , motor and body that left the factory a numbers car.
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Three distinct series, with the last one also have three distinct cars with in it .
26-27 are still pretty “boxy” and are pre Harley Earl’s design touches. These lack the style of the later years and are not what I think of when you hear the term ccca roadster.
28-29: look the part of a ccca classic roadster.
v16 roaster: probably the highest value production Cadillac. Imposing. You have definitely arrived. For the elite in 1930 and for the elite in 2021.
v12 roadster: 75 percent of the wow factor of the v16 roadster for 25-30 percent of the price. Some say underpowered.
v8 roadster: about half of a v12 roadster. Looks the part. Terrible carburetor.
All of these are pretty tough to maintain without an open checkbook or learned mechanics.
My guess is that you could only get a 26-27 for under $100k. (Talking a solid car professionally restored in the last 25 years, ie 90-94 point car).
You may want to look at LaSalles next, which were Cadillacs companion car, and originally priced below the Cadillac V8s.
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5 hours ago, Bill Stoneberg said:
The MGB and a 57 Cadillac Convertible.
56 eldorado
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This is what I want:
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The tires look great. Great choice.
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Sold for $1,341,000. Seems like a very fair price considering the last few public prices.
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What is that hood ornament? I have never seen one.
The Tripps look out of place for any car post 1932/33 in my opinion.
if the headlights have a curved profile so too should the accessory lights.
Paint ..Color changes, or keep original?
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How valuable is value-able?
Under $100k? Do what you want.
over $500k ? Don’t do it.
between the two values: It depends.
Smart collectors consider how they will get out of a car even if they don’t plan on it. Life happens.