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Hi Trimacar Thanks for the answer, I've seen Seagraves with their modified version of the Pierce Twelve but can't recall any with the straight eight. That might be because I just missed the few left that have them. Seagrave must have bought the tools and dies for those engines very cheaply. One reason I ask was an old-time collector here years ago swore the Pierce straight eight engine tooling was bought by Packard to create their 356 ci engine for 1940. I have no idea how he got that idea but it was just one of the choice bits of "inside" knowledge he was glad to retell.

Love the club sedan, such nice proportions! BTW, interesting Packards in the background. Please tell us about them.

Reading late company history named Seagrave as the buyer of the twelve cylinder engine tooling, built the engine until the late 1960's. So, the question is, did another company buy the straight eight engine tooling at the 1938 auction and build engines with it?

Seeing these concepts makes me wish Edsel and E.T. Gregorie had more time and resources to concentrate on filling out the Continental and Custom model lines with elegant custom styles, even if only a handful of each were built.

Anyone who dismisses an old car because it's a four door does himself an immense disservice. That outlook overlooks better than half of all the rich automotive history represented in that body style. For those who primarily equate 'worth' with return on dollars invested, I'd recommend they look elsewhere for a more satisfactorily remunerative hobby........ and leave the old cars alone for those who truly understand and appreciate their intrinsic value.

Better they should have given a program such as this a try rather than continued as they did. Waiting for the market to completely kill off any chance of revival when all was lost and no financing could be had was a lousy business strategy. Thanks for giving us a look at what should have been.

Pinin Farina, along with other Italian coachbuilders, did not seem to have a design feel for large cars. Almost without exception, their efforts in that direction come off as awkward, unattractive, even amateurish. If the Jacqueline was built with the objective of garnering further coachbuilding for GM after the last of the 1960 Eldorado Brougham production, perhaps they simply should have ask Bill Mitchell for designs he selected from the various studios worthy of being built, had chassis shipped to them as blank slates. If they had done so, we might have had a series of worthwhile Pinin Farina 1960's GM concept/dream cars in addition to those built in-house.

I knew these suggestions would generate discussion which was the original purpose, as well as suggest ideas that might contribute to the show enjoyment. We've all been to meets that become set-in-stone, are almost interchangeable year-to-year. They become stale and eventually participation falls off. While I doubt if Hershey is in any danger, a little mixing it up every once in a while keeps things fresh. As far as the spaced-parking suggestion, leaving enough space between so doors on each car can be opened without danger of contacted the car next to it would help not only the owners but participants move among them. The diagonal and spaced parking tried out in DPC initially would be a good test case whether it can be accomplished and if folks like it. For HPOF, merely suggest to car owners in their registration packets that they park next to another car built within ten years of their car's model year. Let them work out the logistics as best they can. No hard and fast rule, just let their intelligence take over and organize the decade grouping. Hope these will be considered and tried if it can be done without major disruptions of what is a pretty fine show now.

A real time capsule! And so rare! Hope to see it at Hershey in HPOF. Quick, someone buy and preserve this treasure before a despoiler obliterates it for a quick buck.

Hi As much as I enjoy the Hershey show annually, I offer the following suggestions for show car parking practices that might make it even more enjoyable. Each is made with the objective of making each car more visible and accessible for everyone to see, photograph and move more easily among without fear of coming in contact with the next car. 1) As show cars arrive, park them with space for another car between the previously positioned car. This practice could go forward until enough arrived to start filling in the empty spaces which would then begin. 2) Diagonal parking initially in the HPOF and DPC Classes in addition to the above. Presently, cars group closely together leaving large empty spaces which should be utilized so each can be enjoyed more thoroughly. 3) Suggest to HPOF and DPC participants to park with other cars contemporary their car, not necessarily sorting strictly by years but loosely by era. Perhaps this would all be like herding cats and impractical but I hope some may be considered and tried to see if they would work. I think owners and participants would enjoy the results. Steve

Hi Kenneth I'll ask the fellow who has them to dig them out, try to get photos for you. Steve

Hi Lovely car! No doubt Fleetwood would have gladly built such at the time if so ordered. It's a pleasure to see a boat-tail done the right way i.e. with proper surface development. The complex, lofted surfaces shows the coachbuilder has an English Wheel and was skillful using it. As you may be aware, a number of Classic roadsters with missing rear decks have been restored as boat-tail speedsters by someone who didn't understand those surfaces and did them with simply flat sheet metal with minimal arcs. There is a Graham-Paige 835 that looks particularly terrible. Enjoy your handsome Cadillac V12 Speedster! Steve

Hi I will bring one NOS 1957 Clipper left front fender to Hershey Space GCC34 if interested, message me to have it brought. Thanks! Steve

Hi I will bring one NOS 1957 Clipper left front fender to Hershey Space GCC34 if interested, message me to have it brought. Thanks! Steve

Hi Will have miscellaneous 1956-57 Lincoln parts at Hershey GCC34. Thanks! Steve

Hi We'll have a 1954 supercharger removed from a car years ago at Hershey GCC34 for sale. Thanks! Steve

Hi I will have the following NOS Thunderbird parts at Hershey, space GCC34 in front of the Giant Center: NOS tailight lens, left and right for 1967-69 Thunderbird, part numbers C8SZ-13450-A and C8SZ-13450-B Rear Bumper Guard Kit, Part No. C9AZ-17984-A. Thanks! Steve

Hi Will be at space GCC34 in front of the Giant Center. Thanks! Steve

Hi Omitted the site location before, I'll be at GCC34 in front of the Giant Center. Thanks! Steve

Hi I will have the following NOS Thunderbird parts at Hershey: NOS tailight lens, left and right for 1967-69 Thunderbird, part numbers C8SZ-13450-A and C8SZ-13450-B Rear Bumper Guard Kit, Part No. C9AZ-17984-A. Steve

Hi A friend has four full wheelcovers having a three bar knock-off style hub center casting with a Chevrolet emblem on a red background plastic insert in the center. This casting is bolted to what turns out to be the standard '50-'53 Oldsmobile wheelcovers which have had the mounting holes die cut so the uniformity suggest they are a GM-made unit. I'll try to get photos to post here. Can anyone tell me if these are genuine Chevrolet accessory wheelcovers for the '50-'53 models? And point me to an on-line site with photos of them? Thanks! Steve

Hi Among the cars offering in this posting is a '32 Light Eight 900 Coupe: http://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/cto/4063008975.html Steve

Hi I will be bringing a set of four '56 Fiesta X-2 Deluxe stainless steel wheelcover to Hershey to sell. They are in good, complete, unrestored condition, will need small dimples worked out, to be polished and the color areas repainted. Please indicate your interest here and I will follow up. Thanks Steve

Hi Paul Wonderfully elegant, almost all from the existing parts! The chrome V-windshield adds to the elegance of those proportions. Surely wish they'd taken advantage of the good bones they had to do custom bodies like this! Steve

Hi A '29 Pierce-Arrow 133 sedan, 29K miles will be auctioned October 26th at Princeton, Illinois: http://www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/auctionview.cgi?lid=1894995&kwd=Packard&zip=14836&category=4 The pictures: http://www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/photopanel.cgi?listingid=1894995&category=4&zip=14836&kwd=Packard Steve