Guest South_paw Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I don't know what this first one is, any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fotofan Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I don't know what this first one is, any ideas?I wouldn't hazard a guess, Lou, but I'm willing to bet that it put a horse out of a job! Thanx for these images of some really rare stuff from the dawn of automotive time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DeSoto Frank Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Fourth photo down, the plump gentleman in the rear seat is Gottlieb Daimler*; I believe the lad at the controls is his son.(* as in "Daimler-Benz" )I don't know what this first one is, any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 The 2nd photo is a Panhard-Levassor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DeSoto Frank Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 The "Steam tractor / buggy" looks like it's cobbled from early Model T parts (steering geer, front wheels, tranny pedal...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 I think the "steam tractor / buggy" that Frank is refering to is made from Model K Ford steering column and front end with Model B Ford engine. It is Henry Ford's early farm tractor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 I think the "steam tractor / buggy" that Frank is refering to is made from Model K Ford steering column and front end with Model B Ford engine. It is Henry Ford's early farm tractor.I have seen pictures of Henry Ford sitting on this before. I belive it is gas powered and the tank is actually the water cooling tower. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Actually, here is Henry Fords first Tractor. No water tower like the tractor pictured but very similar in design. Fordson PhotoFordson PhotoDandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Same vehicle only in these pictures it has a Model K radiator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DeSoto Frank Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Actually, here is Henry Fords first Tractor. No water tower like the tractor pictured but very similar in design. Fordson PhotoFordson PhotoDandy Dave!Okay, I've seen these photos before... a long, long time ago.Looks like they mounted the Model T (?) engine in a transverse manner... if Fordsons were known for "rearing-up" on their hind wheels, I wonder if this machine was even worse ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 If the photos date from 1907, I would think it is more reminisant of an R, N, or S motor. Looks too small for a K motor, which was a 6 cylinder. The fordson "F" Built from 1916-1927, was a lot more powerful. These tractor were notorious for back flipping, as the drawbar is very close to the rearend housing and will not touch the ground in a rear-up. If the wheels caught the ground and stopped, the worm drive would climb the gear and flip the tractor. A lot of farmers were killed on the early Fordson tractors. I have had 3 or 4 "F" models though the years. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 As I said before a Model B engine, that is the 1904 4 cylinder, a rare bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 As I said before a Model B engine, that is the 1904 4 cylinder, a rare bird.Ey ey Captian. I believe you are correct, as the engine looks to big for an N,S or R. :cool: Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 The car with Gottlieb Daimler on board looks to be the original Daimler car of 1886. The wire wheel car below it is a Benz Velo I think - Benz's first 'small' car! The 'dos-a-dos' Panhard pic dates from about 1891. These early Panhards had gears but not in a box! This wwas the first car to use the 'Panhard system' as most later cars did with an engine in front, gearbox behind and final drive behind that. The Daimler Phoenix engine has hot tube ignition and takes quite a long time to start from cold. The last one - the rear-engined 'vis-a-vis' might be a DeDion-Bouton from about 1899. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Look at the size of the front hubs on the first one - plain bearings for sure! I am guessing it is an electric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cben09 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Hi,,No 2 and 6 are Panhards,,and the gentleman w/gotee behind #6 is Hon Evelyn Ellis,,early English motoring pioneer who drove when it was illeagal,,He converted one of these early Panhards to a firepump for his estate,,Ref,Badmitton Library/sports/motoring,1902,,,Cheers,,Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Zetnick Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 The 1st car looked so familiar to me. I used to collect 1:43 scale cars when I was a kid and have this model. It is an 1898 Hautier Electric taxi....the miniature was done by Rami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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