steve62008 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) I need bumpers and headlight bezels for 1935 Hupmobile 527T. Anyone out there have these or know where I might find them?Just received the car...a few more things missing: hubcaps and left chrome strip on the hood. Edited May 7, 2014 by steve62008 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Scroll on down to the "Hupmobile" section of this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp36 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 This sounds like the 1 that sold on ebay? There is a great Hupmobile Club that has a parts Loctor for its members, please check it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edk Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Hello,I might have some bezels for you. I will see how many extras I have. Ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve62008 Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share Posted May 7, 2014 Hello,I might have some bezels for you. I will see how many extras I have. Ed.Thanks! I sure would appreciate your looking! Let me know how much. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve62008 Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share Posted May 7, 2014 Yep, that's the one. Owner shipped some items to be rechromed and had the audacity to kick the bucket before he picked them up ;-( I've just filled out the club application to join and hopefully find some replacements somewhere, somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymboy Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Do you have any bumper guards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edk Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Yep, that's the one. Owner shipped some items to be rechromed and had the audacity to kick the bucket before he picked them up ;-( I've just filled out the club application to join and hopefully find some replacements somewhere, somehow.I also have a lead on a parts car. I will let you know what comes of it. Are the bezels and bumpers all you need? I have been looking for the left front bumper for a couple years already. My spare tire cover is incorrect, and I need an air cleaner also. If you have an air cleaner I would appreciate a picture, and possibly some measurements. These parts are hard to come by. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve62008 Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share Posted May 7, 2014 Do you have any bumper guards?No, sorry.Inasmuch as I've only had physical possession of the car for about 4 hours, I cannot say categorically that this car (527T) didn't come with bumper guards...at least I haven't seen any on pics I've found on the ol google machine. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve62008 Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share Posted May 7, 2014 I need F/R bumpers, bezels, hubcaps, and now thanks to you an air cleaner :-) I've only had physical possession of car for about 4 hours. When I went out to take a picture for you, I discovered that I don't have one either (so if you find one, perhaps you might run into two?). And yes, the parts are definitely hard to come by. I just read an article that says Hupp hardly sold a one in 1935 and actually shut down their plants in that year, then sold the ones they had built in 1936-37. So I can imagine they didn't produce many extra parts, if any. I have a '58 Rolls Royce and I bet I could build several cars just from the new parts that are languishing on shelves somewhere. I purchased two brand new, still in the box fenders (wings) a few years ago, and the guy I talked to didn't bat an eye when I asked. Go figure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve62008 Posted May 9, 2014 Author Share Posted May 9, 2014 No, sorry.Inasmuch as I've only had physical possession of the car for about 4 hours, I cannot say categorically that this car (527T) didn't come with bumper guards...at least I haven't seen any on pics I've found on the ol google machine. Steve upon further thought, what model do you need them for? I looked at other images, Hupmobile ads, etc., and see that bumper guards were on some models (518, etc.) Long story short...since mine is a 527T I don't have bumper guards. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edk Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I need F/R bumpers, bezels, hubcaps, and now thanks to you an air cleaner :-) I've only had physical possession of car for about 4 hours. When I went out to take a picture for you, I discovered that I don't have one either (so if you find one, perhaps you might run into two?). And yes, the parts are definitely hard to come by. I just read an article that says Hupp hardly sold a one in 1935 and actually shut down their plants in that year, then sold the ones they had built in 1936-37. So I can imagine they didn't produce many extra parts, if any. I have a '58 Rolls Royce and I bet I could build several cars just from the new parts that are languishing on shelves somewhere. I purchased two brand new, still in the box fenders (wings) a few years ago, and the guy I talked to didn't bat an eye when I asked. Go figure...To bad about your air cleaner. When I bought mine the previous owner said it was 100% complete under the hood. Then after I bought it said the air cleaner was missing and that he thought his son threw it out when they cleaned up!! They are very hard to find. The airflows used a similar air cleaner, I have a 35 C2 also. I think the 34 airflow might have been the one I saw that looked the same. I think they may be longer though. I have not been able to go look at that potential parts car yet, but the owner said she thought it had the three piece windshield, which would make it a T or J. I did followed up another lead and find another headlight bucket reflector and bezel. I now have four bezels, but they all need a bit of work. I will let you know what extras I have after I go take a look at that other car. Happy hunting, Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve62008 Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 To bad about your air cleaner. When I bought mine the previous owner said it was 100% complete under the hood. Then after I bought it said the air cleaner was missing and that he thought his son threw it out when they cleaned up!! They are very hard to find. The airflows used a similar air cleaner, I have a 35 C2 also. I think the 34 airflow might have been the one I saw that looked the same. I think they may be longer though. I have not been able to go look at that potential parts car yet, but the owner said she thought it had the three piece windshield, which would make it a T or J. I did followed up another lead and find another headlight bucket reflector and bezel. I now have four bezels, but they all need a bit of work. I will let you know what extras I have after I go take a look at that other car. Happy hunting, EdWOW, at least a ghost of a lead! I'm starting to look for suitable substitutes (34 Ford bumpers, some other air cleaner although I've heard it was really not an air cleaner...no filter material inside...just an airflow thing) At least that will help me get it up and running and passing the state safety inspection. The other stuff can wait.Thanks for your effort! I look forward to good results. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve62008 Posted May 21, 2014 Author Share Posted May 21, 2014 Any luck finding bezels for 35 527T? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve62008 Posted May 21, 2014 Author Share Posted May 21, 2014 Have you seen that other car? Would you be interesting in parting ways with a couple of the bezels you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edk Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Have you seen that other car? Would you be interesting in parting ways with a couple of the bezels you have?The other car was a bust. I called the owner back after they went and took a look at it. The front end is gone, and one side is apparently caved in. There is another car I want to go look at out there, so I will check out the remains when I am out there, but it may not be for a while. I am not ready to part with any bezels until I have had time to repair a set for my car. I am busy on another job and may not get at them for a while, so you will have to check back.Any luck finding anything else?Cheers, Ed.PS I might know where there is a right half of the front bumper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve62008 Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 The other car was a bust. I called the owner back after they went and took a look at it. The front end is gone, and one side is apparently caved in. There is another car I want to go look at out there, so I will check out the remains when I am out there, but it may not be for a while. I am not ready to part with any bezels until I have had time to repair a set for my car. I am busy on another job and may not get at them for a while, so you will have to check back.Any luck finding anything else?Cheers, Ed.PS I might know where there is a right half of the front bumper.Thanks for the update. I haven't been able to find anything either...MAN, parts are scarce! I'm also checking overseas, inasmuch as mine is a right hand drive made for Australia originally. Apparently, a lot of cars were sold there due to Hupp's reputation for reliability and endurance. I'm in the process of joining their club. Hopefully it will be a fruitful resource. I also trying to find out the best shows/meets/sales, like Hershey. If I find any Hupmobile parts, I may scarf up any and all and go into business for myself ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Have you ever thought about having the headlight bezels cast,or reproduced on a 3-D printer, from excellent originals which aclub member might lend you?I'm not an expert on such a topic, but I thought my two cents might help--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve62008 Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 Have you ever thought about having the headlight bezels cast,or reproduced on a 3-D printer, from excellent originals which aclub member might lend you?I'm not an expert on such a topic, but I thought my two cents might help---two very good ideas...wouldn't have thought of either myself. I will definitely look into them! Thanks, Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ellaaaa11 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 hi Would you be interesting in parting ways with a couple of the bezels you have find anything either...MAN, parts are scarce PREVENTATIVE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve62008 Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share Posted May 23, 2014 hi Would you be interesting in parting ways with a couple of the bezels you have find anything either...MAN, parts are scarce PREVENTATIVE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edk Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 To whoever needs 427 or 527 bezels, ideally I would do a trade for the left half of the front bumper if anyone has an extra. I also have an extra NOS instrument cluster if anyone is interested. Cheers, Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve62008 Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 Another member came up with a couple of good ideas...3D print the bezels (not too familiar with what can be done with this process, e.g. plastic or metal too?). Another idea, get a good bezel and make a mold to make more and more and more bezels....cast in some kind of metal (more familiar with this process as I'm a sculptor and have done this a few times in bronze). In any case, could you possibly send me a bezel (on loan only), so I can try these two techniques to see if I can get something worth putting on a car?could also work with the bumpers, albeit the size makes it more of a challenge, but casting new parts is certainly doable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edk Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Another member came up with a couple of good ideas...3D print the bezels (not too familiar with what can be done with this process, e.g. plastic or metal too?). Another idea, get a good bezel and make a mold to make more and more and more bezels....cast in some kind of metal (more familiar with this process as I'm a sculptor and have done this a few times in bronze). In any case, could you possibly send me a bezel (on loan only), so I can try these two techniques to see if I can get something worth putting on a car?could also work with the bumpers, albeit the size makes it more of a challenge, but casting new parts is certainly doable.I don't think casting would work. The originals are thin stainless steel and are stamped I believe. A cast piece would either be to weak, or to thick to fit. I don't know about the 3d printing though. It could not be plated though??? The bumper I could make from steel, but it would be labor intensive, and I am not ready for it yet anyway. So I will keep on looking. None of my bezels are good enough to copy, and I can't do anything on them for a while. I may know one fellow who may have another bezel, I will ask for you. I got two from him, and I'm not sure if he has any more. I think he might have an extra right side of the front bumper. I forgot since it is the left I need. I will let you know what I find out, Ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve62008 Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 enjoy the conversation. As for casting, I wouldn't be looking to make absolutely down to the micrometer replicas, just something that would look fairly good to get folks by as a temporary stopgap. However, you make some good points, particularly re: type of metal. Then of course is the issue of tinsel strength....for sure would want something that would actually behave like a bumper.As for the plastic parts, I have found quite a few chrome shops that say they chrome plastic. Haven't looked into the details. As for your bezels, I think any in reasonable dimensional shape would work as something to model via cad-cam or whatever is used to create the file. Pits and other minor irregularities are not an issue. I have just purchased 4 "reasonably good condition" hubcaps, so I might use one as a test for replication via 3D, just to see how (if) it works. Of course, would be interested in either side of the front bumper. If you have a point of contact, I would be in your debt (a beer perhaps?). Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edk Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 enjoy the conversation. As for casting, I wouldn't be looking to make absolutely down to the micrometer replicas, just something that would look fairly good to get folks by as a temporary stopgap. However, you make some good points, particularly re: type of metal. Then of course is the issue of tinsel strength....for sure would want something that would actually behave like a bumper.As for the plastic parts, I have found quite a few chrome shops that say they chrome plastic. Haven't looked into the details. As for your bezels, I think any in reasonable dimensional shape would work as something to model via cad-cam or whatever is used to create the file. Pits and other minor irregularities are not an issue. I have just purchased 4 "reasonably good condition" hubcaps, so I might use one as a test for replication via 3D, just to see how (if) it works. Of course, would be interested in either side of the front bumper. If you have a point of contact, I would be in your debt (a beer perhaps?). SteveSteve, I sent you a private message with that contact info. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kenbenn Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 To whoever needs 427 or 527 bezels, ideally I would do a trade for the left half of the front bumper if anyone has an extra. I also have an extra NOS instrument cluster if anyone is interested. Cheers, Ededk, do you still have the instrument cluster? if so what is the asking price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edk Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 edk, do you still have the instrument cluster? if so what is the asking price?I guess you don't have a left front bumper then? It would be $400 w/o a trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kenbenn Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 eI guess you don't have a left front bumper then? It would be $400 w/o a tradeEd, just aquired front bumpers for my 34 coupe.one side broken piece missing other side gussettwelded on beck, will probably keep and refurbish.Probably too costly to ship from Australia Could you send a photo of gaugesRegards Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edk Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 eEd, just aquired front bumpers for my 34 coupe.one side broken piece missing other side gussettwelded on beck, will probably keep and refurbish.Probably too costly to ship from Australia Could you send a photo of gaugesRegards KenHi Ken, I will take some pictures when I go out to my shop today. Is your car the 34 J that was auctioned fairly recently? I would really like a coupe, but they are sure hard to come by, you are lucky to have it! Did you not have bumpers either ,and just got some, or did you have some and find better ones? Even if you have a rough spare, I would consider it. I will try send the pictures tonight. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kenbenn Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 HI Ed,Yes it probably is the same car.Purchased car march 2012, in the process of complete resto.body and chassis at the paintstrippers and trying to source parts.Yes have just bought front bumpers manifold set, warner overdrive gearbox and a few other bits.I had rear bumper minus bracket I will look out for bumper for you but would be even scarcer douw under!Rgards Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edk Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Hi Ken,It even came wrapped in brown paper which I did not keep. The beige line you can see inside both gauges is the cork gasket which has shrunk, The speedo even turn fairly easily with a small screrw driver, and will make the needle bounce. Sounds like you have been busy hunting parts, and had some success! What else do you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kenbenn Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Hi Ed,i need quite a few parts for the Hup. Radiator badges, bonnet emblem ( waterfall/ zeppelin ) bonnet stay arms,accelerator pedal, door lock mechanism.door key lock.Headlight lenses.i may have some hub caps to spare.I received the photos re the gauges , but with the shipping costs and converting amp and fuel gauge (12 v/ positive earth)is a bit expensive. Any chance you could lower the price?regards,Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kenbenn Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Hi Ed, checking to see if you received my last message,awaiting your reply.Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve62008 Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 I would be interested in the left front bumper. Do you still have it? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve62008 Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 thanks for the contact, Ed. Turns out he has a right bumper for the front of the car. Price was reasonable. Yippee! Thanks again. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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