Phil, as some will tell you, I was a constant speaker upper on this forum, the last year has blasted me around and i now find myself in Texas with a dial up connection!!!! Kind of limits the surfing, talking and replying. I quickly learned that if I didn't have a reply on this forum when not 100% convinced that I was correct that there were certain members that would jump all over you for trying to help and not being correct to the 1/4 foot pound or 1 ounce overfill. That tends to scare off the shy. As with anything, the minority kick their shoes offf and dance on the gym floor while the majority stand to the side wishing themselves to get involved. This post said absolutely nothing BUT it was a reply!!!!!