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  1. Should've remembered to add to check with Monte's Eqpmt, longtime supplier of obsolete Cont'l parts, generally the first place to start for Cont'l questions...they did state son e years ago they were weak om pre-1920, but they might've meant parts and not info... Our old contact there was Garrad (Gerry/Jerry) Moon, but can;t find my old email lists... In addition to selling the Hudson engine (I'm sure dozens have asked that question) you might ask if he has any info on the M, listed as a 4" bore in the 1917 catalog (stroke? what used for--auto/truck/ other??)
  2. If anyone out there has a copy, would you be kind enough to see if it mentions the "other" Continental---Continental Engine Co, Chicago and Danville, Il?? They sold engines in competion circa 1905-1913 or so (CECo claimed 1895 as their start), There is at least one trade journal with a 1/2 page ad by one, the other half of the page an ad by the other, both with engine illustrations!! CECo advertised heavily for awhile, both HO and verticals, and seems to've gone into CycleCars and died out 1913-15 or so. Don't recall finding any litigation; just idle curiosity.
  3. Having trouble with site-two previous tries blinked out Cont'l too popular to chase makes---try AACA Historian/Library, HET Club ditto probably lest bet. Also is Cont'l History book, may mention.. Believe your engine 4x41/2=226??? If so, coni'l issued few 4x---only two in 1917 ring catalog . Try inquirug for circa 1911 or so 4 cyl 4" bore Cont'l and see what comes up.
  4. In the three year interim I've sold off my pre WWI stuff but do have scribbled notes original Model 20 had Budas, but no mention whether off-the-shelf engine, designed by Buda to Hudson specs or designed in-house and just built by Buda. Also say1911 Model 33 engine, presumably state of the art at the time, designed in-house and just manufactured by Continental. Assume you member HET club; otherwise only suggestions are checking with UK source--Hudson had later presence in UK but no info on earlier. Also could move inquiry to either Hudson or Continental Motors forums below for wider exposure (or notes therein to see your post in Parts Wanted if allowed). You might ask the Club if they have any info on possibility Cont'l may've sold the Hudson engine for other than cars/trucks (Ind'l, road const, Ag, etc)) either during Hudson use or after Hudson went to 6, under some Comt'l model #_ AAAH- found my Hudson=Railton book.., says exhibited iew 40 HP sux at "Olympia Show" 1913, so good chance exporting earlier.
  5. Forgot to mention several trucks that have websites or Facebook pages: Brockway, Diamond T, Federal, GMC/Chev/GMC, Velie, and, Ward La France. Good places to start looking.
  6. Your CSeries seems to be C, TA, CA-C4 if it exits, CCA, C2, C4, and maybe T6. CA, CCA,C4 issued in 3 3/4 and 4 1/8 bores others appear 4 1/8. Monte's maybe able to advise if suitable substitutes if no C is available. CA-C4 may be listing where engines options or if C4 replaced C2. CA-C4 in over 100 trucks per my list up through 1923.
  7. Just out of curiosity, ask other 7r owners if they know Y the 7R disappeared so quickly...a fatal flaw? Or just underpowered and board out to 3 3/8?
  8. Your 7R quickly replaced by 8R, a 3 3/8 using same valves and bearings. Davis and many others in PF's list above used both. Auburn Elcar and Moon have clubs, members there should be able to advise if 8R dropin fit. 8R also used in various trucks to 1931. Bud Tierney
  9. Just noticed the "Rotary"...only one catalog ID's rotaries... =85 Rotary with Cont;l FA162 variation of 4 cyl F4162/F162/PF162.. 125 Rotary with either Cont';G193 or Herd DD198, which sound like diesels but are not covered in my parts bppks... All Worthington models are listed as numbers, as above,...' olookimg for a model IU..
  10. Rusty: I've got about 450 names on my Cont'l users list, all prewar cars, trucks, buses altho contains a few one-offs, like the prison inmates who built a truck with a Cont'l engine... And that doesn't begin to count the construction eqpmt etc, probably nearly (or more!!) an numerous... They had little penetration of early tractors,but there are a few... My list is made primarily from listings in old car/truck parts catalogs and some from vehicle reports in the literature, so I'm sure it's far from complete to WWII... Bit there's a complication; see my yesterday post in the Cont'l Motors forum re' the other "imitation" Cont;l, The Continental Engine Co (189?/190?---1914 or so) I don;t know of any supposedly compolete list... list..;.
  11. Those of us in the hobby (compulsion/obsession??) for years take some things for granted, such as everyone knowing about Cont'l engines...a Peerless owners request for info reminded me that wasn't true for everyone... "Our" Cont'l started 1903? or so---believe they had 2 Cyl verticals in a 1903 auto show---as Autocar Engineering Co. Chicago. and later became Cont;l Motor Nfg co... There was a SECOND Cont'l---Continental Engine Co, Chicagp, apparently a contemporary---ads appear mid-1905 and perhaps earlier, , and for awhile our Cont;l ads warning of "imitation Cont;ls" being adverised and apparently sold. There is one trade journal that printed an ad page, each Cont;l having half that sa,me page!! That Cont'l seems to've died out 1913=14 or so, turning into a Continental Engineering Co. They advertised a full line of engines and later referred to a factory in Illinois, but my limited research didn't settle whether they were actually a builder or just selling someone elses engines... Letters to readers repair Q and A in Horseless Age (??) stated one of their engines was in the Van roadster... They were also involved in a line of "Wastern" and "CE" engines. As old auto reports sometimes just say "Cont;l engine", there is some doubt ablot early lakes being "our" cont'l users...
  12. This belongs in the Peerless forum here (scroll WAY down)...Models 80/81are listed with Cont'l 8U/18C (same engine series; Models 61/61A show as 11E...don;t know iP Peerless ID'd on tag on block
  13. Per my Cont;l lists (primarily from old parts catalogs, therefor not complete)... 38 Victor gasket catalog lists 12=13=14=15Ks under one set of gaskets..in addition tp the 14K listed for Graham Paige 8 models 827, 835, 937 1928-30 other makes using are: Davis---12. 13. 14Ks DuPont, Jordan, Peerless, Ward LaFrance---12 and 14K Elcar, Mercer, Meteor Hearse ---12K S&S (Sayers and Scoville--hearses etc)---12 and 15K Gray Marine marinized the 14K as their Phantom-Cruiser-High Speed 8 (don't know if one model or three))... If Club doesn't have info re' possible interchange, try Mpnte's Eqpmt in IL. longtime obsolete Comt'l parts dealer. Contact there in years past was Garrad (Gerry/Jerry) Moon, maybe garradmoon@montes@flash.net??) This should also be posted to Cont'l Motors forum below...
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