cquisuila Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 (edited) especially side driver i have a noise like a snap when the power window is UP it doesn't stop automatically I think motor to be adjusted? adjustement points up and down ? I can't find a schema on this theme if you have response thank you 🙂 Edited May 3 by cquisuila (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Judging from what I saw of the mechanism when i had my '67 apart last week, there doesn't appear to be any up/down limit associated with the motor. The motor simply operates until it hits the mechanical stops and you release the switch. My window adjustment was good - so I purposely did not do anything to change mechanical alignment of the left rear regulator that I removed for troubleshooting. I marked the position of all of the bolts that I removed. That said, it sounds like you may have a broken or worn cushion or roller. Does the window move smoothly? I would remove the inner door panel and look for any pieces that may have fallen off and settled at the bottom of the door. Someone must have replaced the glass in my right door sometime in the past, as I found an extra bolt & nut used to attach the glass to the regulator laying at the bottom of the door. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cquisuila Posted May 3 Author Share Posted May 3 (edited) yes i entirely removed the total mechanism with motor i cleaned and regreased and side passenger it is not a problem but i haven't removed the motor i just changed one or two worn rollers i saw a stop on the top Edited May 3 by cquisuila (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cquisuila Posted May 3 Author Share Posted May 3 thank you em tee !! 11/2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 So, are the front and rear 'up-stops' functional in your door (numbers 11 & 15 in the diagram)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cquisuila Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 (edited) OK Tim I will see this point INFORMATION : my probleme is windows glass removed and i don't know if the problem is again with the glass in place... Edited May 14 by cquisuila (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cquisuila Posted August 8 Author Share Posted August 8 (edited) I sawn and it seems the engine rack is the problem IN FACT the motor rack sticks out too much when the window is up and therefore the motor runs idle SO i retry regulator and i sawn on work manual the parts "regulator sector gear stop up and down (number 9 and 13) as picture I don't understand because i just see the rack ? lost parts or broken parts ? AND more, my picture is DIFFERENT of EM TEE picture where there isn't this parts ! STRANGE ! GRRRRRR.... IT is perhaps my problem i can see on the right side which is efficient ..;) Edited August 14 by cquisuila (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cquisuila Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 Help The problem is always here when the Window is up only The motor don,t stop ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Is the "Gear Stop" (#9) in place? If so, try moving it to reduce the amount of travel on the sector gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cquisuila Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 thank you for your help, EM TEE !!!🙂 no > nothing on the rack as the side passenger which is efficient (the motor stops !!) i don't understand the motor continues to turn !!! when up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 21 hours ago, cquisuila said: no > nothing on the rack I think that ^^^ is the problem. A clamp like the one in the diagram needs to be attached to the sector gear in order to stop the motor from running past the end of the sector. You could create a slot in the sector gear and install a nut, lock washer and bolt to act as a stop. A hole in the gear probably won't be sufficient, as the position of the bolt needs to be adjustable so that the closed position of the window can be set to meet the gasket at the roof rail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulldogDriver Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Unless I’m not seeing the diagram correctly it looks like the diagram is for a “manual” window and not a “power” window. #9 might not t be pertinent to the problem. Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cquisuila Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 5 hours ago, EmTee said: I think that ^^^ is the problem. A clamp like the one in the diagram needs to be attached to the sector gear in order to stop the motor from running past the end of the sector. You could create a slot in the sector gear and install a nut, lock washer and bolt to act as a stop. A hole in the gear probably won't be sufficient, as the position of the bolt needs to be adjustable so that the closed position of the window can be set to meet the gasket at the roof rail. OK but why the problem is not on the passenger side which has the same rack WHITOUT stop...i don,t understand.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulldogDriver Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 I don’t know. Did the window work okay before? If not maybe the previous owner changed this and didn’t correct the problem before he sold it to you. I was only making the observation of the diagram showing a manual door and not a power door. Good luck Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 17 hours ago, cquisuila said: OK but why the problem is not on the passenger side which has the same rack WHITOUT stop...i don,t understand.. I don't know - and maybe the language barrier is making this more difficult. I think some pictures might help. Can you post pictures of the problem door and also the other side that works correctly? That might help us determine what is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cquisuila Posted September 5 Author Share Posted September 5 I will have to disassemble the passenger side which is efficient.... to see the difference AND PERHAPS to see the regulator sector gear STOP ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cquisuila Posted Saturday at 04:58 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 04:58 PM yes !!! i found the problem ! it is the joint had play and caused the notches on the rack to motor gear wheel see picture i added a flat metal piece to push the joint to motor see picture solution and there is no more disconnection !! if this solution is not sustainable i will change with a big bolt the join rack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted Sunday at 01:58 AM Share Posted Sunday at 01:58 AM I think that if you use a nut and bolt approach, you’ll find that you’ll have clearance problems. Probably better to replace with a new rivet and bushing. Look for an appropriate sized tubular rivet. Tubular rivets do not require heat or a press. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cquisuila Posted Sunday at 03:52 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 03:52 PM But it is specific rivet to make mobile the rack ?? Otherwise it is blocked. do you have your reference please ? here possibility with bolt ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted Monday at 01:10 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:10 PM Can you just tighten the existing rivet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cquisuila Posted Monday at 01:27 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 01:27 PM here the picture of rivet ! tightening the rivet won't do much I think because the play is lateral🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted Monday at 02:48 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:48 PM 1 hour ago, cquisuila said: tightening the rivet won't do much I think because the play is lateral OK, I see what you are saying. If I understand what is happening the sector gear is disengaging from the drive gear because the rivet hole holding the sector gear is elongated. If you can't get another regulator, then I would suggest welding-up and re-drilling the hole. You could also weld-in a bolt having an appropriate shoulder for the sector gear pivot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cquisuila Posted Monday at 02:55 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 02:55 PM it is exactly the problem. I will change the rivet with another rivet or round couplming nut as picture : 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted Monday at 03:33 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:33 PM It is really difficult to get those book binding rivets to tighten up. If you tighten them to the point where they won’t come apart, you will have to make them so tight that they will interfere with the operation of the window. Use the tubular rivets and some brass bushings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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