Guest pipeweld Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 rebuilding wood spoke wheels on 27 buick. where can I get the hub bolts and nuts . looks like I need 44 total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Shaw Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 The fastest and most reliable solution is to make your own out of carriage bolts. If you want grade 8 hub bolts, you can machine them from hex head bolts . If you are restoring a show car, the high domed heads can be built up with welding and machined or ground to match the original shape.The lug bolts that go through the fellow are a different matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Romberger Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I am not sure if these are what Mark is talking about, but Restoration Supply has high domed head wheel bolts on page 40 of their catalog. I bought some when I rebuilt my Model T wheels.www.RestorationStuff.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Romberger Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Unless you have 4 in your pocket, I think you need 48? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critterpainter Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Some Buicks (1925 Standard for one) can use a Ford T wheel bolt. Many suppliers have them and if you want something stronger than original then ask for the ones made by RV Anderson. Do stake the nuts on after installing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pipeweld Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Unless you have 4 in your pocket, I think you need 48?I have 60 but I didn't want to run the threads.what was price on bolts you found? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Romberger Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 If you can use 3/8" or 7/16" Model T bolts critterpainter suggested, the prices from Snyders Model T Parts are as follows:The ones from Restoration Supply are from $14-17 each.If have purchased Model T parts from Snyders, Langs and Mac's with excellent results. Restoration Supply has those "can't get them anywhere parts" and excellent quality products.Hub Bolts & NutsHub bolts for the wood wheel hubs. These have the correct high round head with square shoulders. The nuts are the correct thin style nuts. Nuts do not come with bolts. U.S.A.[TABLE]<TBODY>[TR][TH]Part Number[/TH][TH]Specifics[/TH][TH]Price[/TH][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=490> T-2825</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Rear Bolts 3/8-16 x 2-1/8" Long1909-27[/TD][TD]$0.75 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=491> T-2825-A</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Front & Rear Nuts1909-27[/TD][TD]$0.75 / set of 6[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=5917> T-2825-Q6</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Rear Bolts 3/8-16 x 2-1/8" Long1909-27[/TD][TD]$4.25 / set of 6[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=5919> T-2826</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Front Bolts 3/8-16 X 2" Long1909-27[/TD][TD]$0.75 / pr.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=489> T-2826-Q6</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Front Bolts 3/8-16 X 2" Long1909-27[/TD][TD]$4.25 / set of 6[/TD][/TR]</TBODY>[/TABLE]<INPUT id=rdbtn366 class=addToCart title="Add Hub Bolts & Nuts to your shopping cart" src="/images/button_cart.png" type=image>Thick Head BoltsOriginal style bolts with the thick head. No markings on head. Cad appearing zinc finish.[TABLE]<TBODY>[TR][TH]Part Number[/TH][TH]Price[/TH][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=2425> TB-38241</LABEL>[/TD][TD]$0.70 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=2426> TB-38242</LABEL>[/TD][TD]$0.75 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=2428> TB-38244</LABEL>[/TD][TD]$0.75 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=2429> TB-38245</LABEL>[/TD][TD]$0.75 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=2427> TN-38243</LABEL>[/TD][TD]$0.75 / ea.[/TD][/TR]</TBODY>[/TABLE]<INPUT id=rdbtn1656 class=addToCart title="Add Thick Head Bolts to your shopping cart" src="/images/button_cart.png" type=image>See additional featuresWood Wheel Hardware (A & H)The A & H combination is used on any of the wood felloe wheels 1909-27. These are the demountable type wheel. Brass era cars would use the brass cover and rim washer. 1917 and later would...[TABLE]<TBODY>[TR][TH]Part Number[/TH][TH]Specifics[/TH][TH]Price[/TH][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=129> T-1500-AB</LABEL>[/TD][TD]'A' Dust Cover Brass1909-16[/TD][TD]$14.75 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=130> T-1500-AH</LABEL>[/TD][TD]'H' Rim Washer Brass1909-16[/TD][TD]$11.25 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=131> T-1500-AN</LABEL>[/TD][TD]'A'Dust Cover Nickel1917-27[/TD][TD]$17.25 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=132> T-1500-HN</LABEL>[/TD][TD]'H'Rim Washer Nickel1917-27[/TD][TD]$9.50 / ea.[/TD][/TR]</TBODY>[/TABLE]<INPUT id=rdbtn92 class=addToCart title="Add Wood Wheel Hardware (A & H) to your shopping cart" src="/images/button_cart.png" type=image>See additional featuresBacking Plate Mount BoltsSpecial cadium plated bolts and nuts that hold the rear backing plates and the radius rod to the axle housing. The A-2248/50 set contains 2 long bolts, 2 short bolts, 4 nuts, and 4 cotter...[TABLE]<TBODY>[TR][TH]Part Number[/TH][TH]Specifics[/TH][TH]Price[/TH][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=334> A-2248</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Long housing bolt1928-31[/TD][TD]$2.75 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=337> A-2248/50</LABEL>[/TD][TD]1928-31[/TD][TD]$16.75 / set[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=335> A-2249</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Short housing bolt1928-31[/TD][TD]$2.35 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=336> A-2250</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Housing bolt nuts1928-31[/TD][TD]$1.70 / ea.[/TD][/TR]</TBODY>[/TABLE]<INPUT id=rdbtn249 class=addToCart title="Add Backing Plate Mount Bolts to your shopping cart" src="/images/button_cart.png" type=image>Rim Bolts & NutsSpecial made bolts and nuts as used on any Ford demountable rim. 7/16-20 X 2-1/2" Long. Best buy is the full set! U.S.A.[TABLE]<TBODY>[TR][TH]Part Number[/TH][TH]Specifics[/TH][TH]Price[/TH][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=499> T-2847</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Bolt Only1919-27[/TD][TD]$1.25 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=500> T-2848</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Nut Only1919-27[/TD][TD]$1.45 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=501> T-2848/47-1</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Set for 1 wheel1919-27[/TD][TD]$8.50 / set[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=502> T-2848/47-4</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Set for 4 wheels1919-27[/TD][TD]$32.95 / set[/TD][/TR]</TBODY>[/TABLE]<INPUT id=rdbtn369 class=addToCart title="Add Rim Bolts & Nuts to your shopping cart" src="/images/button_cart.png" type=image>See additional featuresWire Wheel AdapterWant to use those less expensive Model A Ford wheels on your Model T Ford? This wire wheel adapter kit will adapt your wood wheel hubs to accept either the 1926-1927 Model T wire wheels or the...[TABLE]<TBODY>[TR][TH]Part Number[/TH][TH]Specifics[/TH][TH]Price[/TH][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=507> T-2888-A</LABEL>[/TD][TD]For 28-29 wheels1909-27[/TD][TD]$549.00 / set of 4[/TD][/TR]</TBODY>[/TABLE]<INPUT id=rdbtn372 class=addToCart title="Add Wire Wheel Adapter to your shopping cart" src="/images/button_cart.png" type=image>Wood Wheel Hub CapsAvailable in either nickel or chrome. Nickel is what Henry put on 'em but chrome sure is easier on Ma's polishing rag! Ford script with Made in U.S.A. on face. [TABLE]<TBODY>[TR][TH]Part Number[/TH][TH]Specifics[/TH][TH]Price[/TH][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=513> T-2819-C</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Nickel (Each)1917-27[/TD][TD]$15.25 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=5925> T-2819-C-Q4</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Nickel (Set of 4)1917-27[/TD][TD]$60.00 / set of 4[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=5926> T-2819-D</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Chrome (Each)1917-27[/TD][TD]$15.25 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=514> T-2819-D-Q4</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Chrome (Set of 4)1917-27[/TD][TD]$60.00 / set of 4[/TD][/TR]</TBODY>[/TABLE]<INPUT id=rdbtn378 class=addToCart title="Add Wood Wheel Hub Caps to your shopping cart" src="/images/button_cart.png" type=image>Rear Wheel Studs, 3-7/32"Rear wheel studs for the 30-1 AA Truck only. These are the shorter of the 2 styles of studs used. These are 3-7/32" long.[TABLE]<TBODY>[TR][TH]Part Number[/TH][TH]Specifics[/TH][TH]Price[/TH][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=903> AA-1118</LABEL>[/TD][TD]RH Thread1930-31[/TD][TD]$5.95 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=904> AA-1119</LABEL>[/TD][TD]LH Thread1930-31[/TD][TD]$5.95 / ea.[/TD][/TR]</TBODY>[/TABLE]<INPUT id=rdbtn690 class=addToCart title="Add Rear Wheel Studs, 3-7/32" src="/images/button_cart.png" type=image to your shopping cart?>A Popular Snyder's ItemSee additional featuresModel A WheelsBrand new Model A wheels made just like the originals. Model A Ford wheels are supplied in primer so you can paint to your liking. [TABLE]<TBODY>[TR][TH]Part Number[/TH][TH]Specifics[/TH][TH]Price[/TH][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=7088> A-1015-BR</LABEL>[/TD][TD]211928-29[/TD][TD]$330.00 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=7089> A-1015-D</LABEL>[/TD][TD]191930-31[/TD][TD]$330.00 / ea.[/TD][/TR]</TBODY>[/TABLE]<INPUT id=rdbtn4567 class=addToCart title="Add Model A Wheels to your shopping cart" src="/images/button_cart.png" type=image>See additional features1926-27 Rear Wire Wheel HubThese rear wheel hubs are made specifically for the 1926-7 T with wire wheels. This is the hub only, studs and drum are not included. U.S.A.[TABLE]<TBODY>[TR][TH]Part Number[/TH][TH]Specifics[/TH][TH]Price[/TH][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=7564> T-2887-OR</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Wire Wheel Only1926-27[/TD][TD]$195.00 / ea.[/TD][/TR]</TBODY>[/TABLE]<INPUT id=rdbtn4746 class=addToCart title="Add 1926-27 Rear Wire Wheel Hub to your shopping cart" src="/images/button_cart.png" type=image>See additional features1926-27 Front Wire Wheel HubThis is the front hub only for 1926-27 Model T's with wire wheels. Wheel studs, and bearing races are not included. U.S.A.[TABLE]<TBODY>[TR][TH]Part Number[/TH][TH]Specifics[/TH][TH]Price[/TH][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=7565> T-2882</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Wire Wheel Only1926-27[/TD][TD]$265.00 / ea.[/TD][/TR]</TBODY>[/TABLE]<INPUT id=rdbtn4747 class=addToCart title="Add 1926-27 Front Wire Wheel Hub to your shopping cart" src="/images/button_cart.png" type=image>See additional featuresWheel Balancing BeadsThese glass beads are installed in your Model T or A inner tubes to improve handling and reduce tire wear. We recommend the 4 oz. for any T or A with wire wheels and the 6 oz for any Model T...[TABLE]<TBODY>[TR][TH]Part Number[/TH][TH]Specifics[/TH][TH]Price[/TH][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=9355> T-1508-4</LABEL>[/TD][TD]4 oz. Bag1909-31[/TD][TD]$8.00 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=9354> T-1508-4K</LABEL>[/TD][TD]4 oz. Kit1909-31[/TD][TD]$31.75 / set[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=9357> T-1508-6</LABEL>[/TD][TD]6 oz. Bag1909-31[/TD][TD]$12.00 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=9356> T-1508-6K</LABEL>[/TD][TD]6 oz. Kit1909-31[/TD][TD]$33.50 / set[/TD][/TR]</TBODY>[/TABLE]<INPUT id=rdbtn5582 class=addToCart title="Add Wheel Balancing Beads to your shopping cart" src="/images/button_cart.png" type=image>See additional featuresWood Felloe Wheel PlateUsed on the early style fellow wheels where the wood band joined. "H" used on Hayes wheels, "P" used on Prudden, or Plain. U.S.A.[TABLE]<TBODY>[TR][TH]Part Number[/TH][TH]Specifics[/TH][TH]Price[/TH][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=480> T-2801</LABEL>[/TD][TD]'H' Imprint1909-15[/TD][TD]$4.25 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=6748> T-2801-P</LABEL>[/TD][TD]'P' Imprint1912-17[/TD][TD]$4.25 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=6749> T-2801-PL</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Plain1909-12[/TD][TD]$4.25 / ea.[/TD][/TR]</TBODY>[/TABLE]<INPUT id=rdbtn359 class=addToCart title="Add Wood Felloe Wheel Plate to your shopping cart" src="/images/button_cart.png" type=image>Wire Wheel Hub CapsUsed on the 26-27 wire wheel made by Ford. Ford used a nickel cap, but the chrome will not need to be polished as often. Brass is also available for Speedsters. U.S.A.[TABLE]<TBODY>[TR][TH]Part Number[/TH][TH]Specifics[/TH][TH]Price[/TH][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=519> T-2885-BR</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Brass1926-27[/TD][TD]$10.50 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=521> T-2885-C</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Chrome1926-27[/TD][TD]$12.75 / ea.[/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: part]<LABEL><INPUT class=auto size=3 type=text name=520> T-2885-N</LABEL>[/TD][TD]Nickel1926-27[/TD][TD]$12.75 / ea.[/TD][/TR]</TBODY>[/TABLE]<INPUT id=rdbtn381 class=addToCart title="Add Wire Wheel Hub Caps to your shopping cart" src="/images/button_cart.png" type=image> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_B Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I have seen them called "wagon bolts" as opposed to carriage bolts. I found a whole box of them in an old hardware store some years ago. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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