Guest chowda Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Hey all, First time here, just trying to figure out what this was.I found them in my grandfather's estate. I know that the one is the adonis riding a wave hood ornament (or mold), but the other is a ceramic casting of the first. There is a number on the base 18-219...Is the hood ornament real? It's lead and pretty heavy.Why would you make a ceramic casting of it? Just as a conversation piece? And finally, what's the value on something like this. Tough to find originals (if it is) on ebay. all repros. Thanks a bunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Oldschoolgent Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Great find! Perhaps it is on par with this??: Lincoln Greyhound master custom mold by Gorham Co. | eBay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chowda Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 So, that was one of my concerns. Do you think it's the original mold?I'm not sure it's for sale, but everything has a price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coley Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 What you have is a pattern, not a mold.You would need to have a mold made from the pattern to make any new ornaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chowda Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Did you see all the pictures because I think one is the mold and one is the pattern. I may be wrong but the lead would be the mold and the ceramic would be the pattern. No?Or are you saying is the lead is a pattern made from an original hood ornament and the ceramic is a copy of a copy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bkazmer Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 the latter. A mold has an adonis shaped "hole" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) Chowda. Obviously not a mold. A mold is a hollow form in which you pour molten metal or liquid plastic. If there is no documentation to go with your pattern (or identifying markings linking them to the Packard Motor Car company), the patterns really don''t have any historical value. Unless a mascot historian or an expert in casting techniques can tell you that they "may" have been made in the late 1920s, when the ornament was first used, they are basically interesting art pieces. Edited December 29, 2011 by West Peterson (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I have an original Adonis that my wife picked up in an antique store for $5. She was told it was a paper weight and it does indeed serve well as one. I think there were actually 2 versions, one for '32 and up and one for '31 and earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Probably just two versions of the base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Yea, I think you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Mine is the earlier version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen_Dyneto Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I guess this design patent is pretty commonly known to those involved in Packards, but just in case it isn't ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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