Guest Peter Woyen Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 I received a Grand National award (junior) last fall. Is there supposed to be a radiator badge to go with that or do you receive the rad badge when you get your Grand National senior award? I suspect I should be showing a badge the next time I have the car at a Grand National meet, when I go for the senior. Should I be contacting someone at headquarters? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter J.Heizmann Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Hi, Peter.The Grand National awards do not have a "Junior" category. They are titled 1st Place GN, 2nd Place GN, or, 3rd Place GN.Only the 1st Place GN receives a grill badge. If your trophy states 1st Place then you are entitled to the grill badge. Others will probably chime in here.Check the award you received in the meantime and tell us what is on it (1st, 2nd, or, 3rd).Regards,Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter Woyen Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Hello Peter,It is a first place Grand National-Thanks,Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCHinson Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Yes, the meet results certainly show your car as a First Grand National....Class 11First Grand National1925 Ford..............................Peter Woyen, Fargo, NDYes, you should call Headquarters, you should have received a Grand National Badge for your car.This is the text from the Judging Guidelines explaining it:BADGE: A suitable year-dated badge signifyingthat the vehicle is a GRAND NATIONAL FIRST PRIZEWINNER, similar to the current JuniorNational First Prize winner badgewill be displayed on the vehiclealong with the Junior National First Prizewinner badge and the Senior Tab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter J.Heizmann Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 There you go, Peter. (Thank you, Matt).Could have been lost in the mail or overlooked. The great staff at HQ will assist. (Phone: 717-534-1910)Regards, Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest billybird Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Congratulations on that pretty blue badge you will be recieving! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter Woyen Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Thank you everybody for your help. I will give National a call. I'm very much enjoying being a part of AACA. Great club and member support. This discussion site is the best. I'm learning alot and very much enjoy discussing various topics with all of you. Thanks for weighing in and I hope to see many of you in Hershey this fall!~Peter Woyen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shop Rat Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Peter, If you get the chance at Hershey, if you haven't done this already, take a break and head for the Music Box Theater and take in the judging school which is free. For your time you will also receive a copy of the 2010 Judging Guidelines book for free. The book is normally $5 so it is well worth your time. And you can rest your feet awhile too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter Woyen Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Just to clarify based on another discussion thread I just read, , if there is an "Annual Grand National repeat Senior award" doesn't that mean that at the Grand National level, if you receive a 1st place, the first time you show, then that is considered a Grand National Junior? Then the 2nd time you show at a GN, if you get a 1st place, you then receive a Grand National Senior award? If you show for the third time at a Grand National and receive a 1st place you would then get a Grand National repeat Senior award. Am I correct? Super thanks~Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shop Rat Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Peter, Here is the teminology straight from the guidelines book. Hope this helps.3. NOTE: A SENIOR award winner maysometimes be referred to as a “SENIORFIRST PLACE” winner. However,the correct terminology is “SENIORAWARD WINNER”.The National Meetawards are listed below:a. JUNIOR: First, Second, Thirdb. SENIOR* Awardc. A.G.N.M.** First, Second,Third.d. A.G.N.M. SENIOR***.* To be a Senior, the vehicle must havewon a FIRST Junior Award and displaythe National First Prize Winnersbadge.** To be eligible for showing in anA.G.N.M., the vehiclemust have wona Senior Award in any year prior to theyear of the A.G.N.M., and must correctlydisplay the Senior Tab with theNational First Prize Winners badge.*** Beginning with the 1992 year, allA.G.N.M. First Prize winners are eligibleto compete for the A.G.N.M.SENIOR award at any subsequentA.G.N.M. The A.G.N.M. SENIORaward is a Senior Tab to be affixedbehind the A.G.N.M. First Prize winnerbadge at some location on thefront of the vehicle. The trophy is thelargest trophy available in the AACAseries of A.G.N.M. awards and can beviewed on page 95. Repeat A.G.N.M.SENIOR winners will receive a pewterplate which also can be viewedon page 95. The A.G.N.M. SENIORaward can be won multiple times.A.G.N.M. SENIOR winners remaineligible for the Preservationaward aswell as national awards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter Woyen Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Thank you Susan. I appreciate your help. You helped clear out my cobwebs on the subject ha :-) ~Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shop Rat Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Peter, happy to help out with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ward Hill Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Interesting to note that the language in the Guidelines booklet on page 91 of the 2010 version, preceding the passages quoted by Susan, appears to now be incorrect. Acording to that paragraph a vehicle is elegible to attend an AGNM one time only - the year following the year that it was awarded the national meet Senior Award. The changes in 1992 that open the AGNM for multiple levels: Senior, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd and multiple Repeat Senior awards offer the "opportunity" for unending attendance at AGNM events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shop Rat Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 (edited) Ward, Here is the entire portion that refers to the A.G.N.M. Which part are you referring to?D. AACA ANNUAL GRAND NATIONALM EETS (A.G.N.M.)A. GENERAL INFORMATION1. Entrants in any AACA Annual GrandNationalMeet are limitedto thosevehiclesthat have acquired SeniorAward Winnerstatus in any yearprior to the year of the A.G.N.M.2. All entrants in the A.G.N.M. must displaythe NATIONAL FIRST PRIZEbadge with the SENIOR TAB. ThoseSenior (Duryea) winners in Meetsprior to 1979 may obtaintheir “retroactive”Senior Tabs by following theprocedure as outlined on page 47.3. NOTE: A SENIOR award winner maysometimes be referred to as a “SENIORFIRST PLACE” winner. However,the correct terminology is “SENIORAWARD WINNER”.The National Meetawards are listed below:a. JUNIOR: First, Second, Thirdb. SENIOR* Awardc. A.G.N.M.** First, Second,Third.d. A.G.N.M. SENIOR***.* To be a Senior, the vehicle must havewon a FIRST Junior Award and displaythe National First Prize Winnersbadge.** To be eligible for showing in anA.G.N.M., the vehiclemust have wona Senior Award in any year prior to theyear of the A.G.N.M., and must correctlydisplay the Senior Tab with theNational First Prize Winners badge.*** Beginning with the 1992 year, allA.G.N.M. First Prize winners are eligibleto compete for the A.G.N.M.SENIOR award at any subsequentA.G.N.M. The A.G.N.M. SENIORaward is a Senior Tab to be affixedbehind the A.G.N.M. First Prize winnerbadge at some location on thefront of the vehicle. The trophy is thelargest trophy available in the AACAseries of A.G.N.M. awards and can beviewed on page 95. Repeat A.G.N.M.SENIOR winners will receive a pewterplate which also can be viewedon page 95. The A.G.N.M. SENIORaward can be won multiple times.A.G.N.M. SENIOR winners remaineligible for the Preservationaward aswell as national awards.B. RULES AND REGULATIONS1. Article VI, Section 4 of the AACABy-laws authorizes an ANNUAL93GRAND NATIONALMEET. Approvalto institute such a meet was grantedby the NationalBoard of DirectorsonOctober5, 1978, based on the followingRules and Regulations,as submittedby the AnnualGrand NationalMeet Committee.2. The ANNUAL GRAND NATIONALMEET and the SENIORCAR AWARDSYSTEMhave been integratedwith the PRESERVATIONAWARDSYSTEM.a. The ANNUAL GRAND NATIONALMEET (A.G.N.M.) shall be held nomore than once a year generally inJuly or August.b. Annual Grand National Meets arehosted in Western and CentralDivisions in odd numbered yearsand the East and Southeast ineven numbered years.c. The A.G.N.M. is to be limitedto sponsorship by a Region(s) orChapter(s) that has previouslysponsoreda National Spring, Fall,or WinterMeet.d. Requests for an A.G.N.M. must be madea minimum of two years in advanceof the proposedA.G.N.M. date.e. If there is no sponsoring Regionavailablefor any given year, theA.G.N.M. will not be held.f. The A.G.N.M. is to be overseen byan A.G.N.M. DIRECTOR, who shallbe a National Director, appointedby the National President.3. ELIGIBLE VEHICLESa. All AACA Senior award winningvehicles,but limited to those whoobtainedthe Senior award or SeniorTab the prior year or earlier. No currentyear Senior award winnersareeligible. (All Senior award winners,upon winning their Senior award,shall automatically graduatefromthe Senior category and be eligibleto compete in an A.G.N.M.)b. All AACA Classes. (Except HPOF,DPC and SGCV)c. An A.G.N.M. First Prize can only bewon once with any one vehicle.d. An A.G.N.M. SENIOR award canbe won repeatedly and remainseligiblefor the Preservation award94and Nationalawards.4. All registered Senior Tab vehicleswill be judged.5. JUDGESa. CHIEF JUDGE – Shall be a SeniorMaster judge and be approved bythe Vice President-Class Judging.b. TEAM CAPTAIN – Shall be at leasta Master judge.c. JUDGING TEAM – Shall be composed,when possible, of at leastfour (4) Master judges or above,plus the team captain.d. APPRENTICE – There shall be noapprentice judges at an A.G.N.M.e. All Grand National Meet judges willhave field judged at least once inthe past 2 years, attended a judgingschool once in the past yearand have at least 10 credits prior toAGNM.6. TROPHIESa. The A.G.N.M. trophieswill be designatedby theNational Board of Directors.7. BADGE: A suitable year-datedbadge signifyingthat the vehicle is aGRAND NATIONAL FIRST PRIZEWINNER,similar to the current JuniorNationalFirst Prize winner badgewill be displayed on the vehiclealongwith the Junior National First Prizewinner badge and the SeniorTab.8. ATTENDANCE PLAQUE: Theseshould be similar to the NationalSpring, Fall and Winter Meet plaques,of good quality.032 gauge brass,etched, enamelfilled, envelope size2-1/2"x3-1/2" maximum.9. Vehicles on the judging field may notdisplay “FOR SALE” signs.10. FEESa. A registration fee will be charged foreach vehicle entered in an A.G.N.M.,a portion of which is forwarded toAACA Headquartersand the remainderto remain with the host Regionfor expenses.The fee is set by theNationalBoard of Directors. Referto the AACA A.G.N.M. guidelinesforthe current set fee.b. A registration fee for each judgeattending the judges breakfast willbe collectedand forwarded to AACA Edited June 22, 2010 by Shop Rat (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex98thdrill Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Yes, the meet results certainly show your car as a First Grand National....Class 11First Grand National1925 Ford..............................Peter Woyen, Fargo, NDYes, you should call Headquarters, you should have received a Grand National Badge for your car.This is the text from the Judging Guidelines explaining it:BADGE: A suitable year-dated badge signifyingthat the vehicle is a GRAND NATIONAL FIRST PRIZEWINNER, similar to the current JuniorNational First Prize winner badgewill be displayed on the vehiclealong with the Junior National First Prizewinner badge and the Senior Tab.Matt,I know I am late in getting on, but last year in Topeka, they handed our the 1st AGNM badge and the trophy right at the show field. As a matter of fact, after the show ended, we put our badge on and had it on the truck for the fall meet that took place the next morning. He should've gotten his badge at the show field. To my recollection, no one left until after the awards were handed out.As a matter of fact just before the awards were presented, then president Mike Jones had a change in bi-laws that was voted upon by the members that were there (by-law change involving when National Directors can take office). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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