alsancle Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I bought this photo on eBay. Any idea what it might be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K8096 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Looks like a Hispano Suiza to me. It has it's radiator shell & headlights off. Perhaps getting some radiator work done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 The inscription on the back says "This the one you sold me with the "good" engine" which I took to mean either no engine or bad engine. You are correct that there is no radiator shell or headlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Saxton Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 It might equally well fit Delage, which came in various sizes. To me the scale looks too small for Hispano.Ivan Saxton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 It looks a lot like an Hispano to me, too. The hood, with double row of louvers, is similar to some h6b's. It would be unusual, though, weather a Delage or Hispano, in that it's left-hand drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Minverva? Don Williams has (had) one that looks very similar, 1930 I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Saxton Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Minerva had that double curvature in the bonnet, West, even into the early 30's. I had a Minerva that had done about 8000miles as a country town hearse, until they used the body as a mini glasshouse for pot plants; and the boys belted it round the farm shooting foxes and rabbits till it coughed a sleeve rod. I gave it to a friend. It looks like paired exhaust manifolds through the louvre gaps, with downpipes adjacent in the centre. Stuart Middlehurst had two 37.2 Hispanos (and an 8 litre which had been fitted with a Perkins diesel.) The carby and distributers were on the right hand side for convenience with the controls. You may be right that it is LHD, but my guess is that all of the driver is obscured except his arm. I have had friends with 4,6,&8cyl Delages over many years. With an ounce of luck I could have had a 1924 4 1/2 litre CO2 six, and a 1929 8 cyl. Ivan Saxton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 The way the light hits the hood of this car, I was thinking there was a possibility it had the "Minerva curve." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Saxton Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I am looking at light and shadow too, West; but also the front edge is very clear against the background. That is where the shape of Minerva is most pronounced, and it tapers back to match the firewall. I had a firewall from one of the big 30hp Minerva sixes sitting on the chassis of the cuff-valve Peugeot (1923 6 cyl 6 litre). (But I gave it to a cheap and crooked lawyer friend for his Minerva without a firewall; and Jean-Pierre in France cent me photos and dimensions so I can fabricate a correct one. I brought home a 300 amp Miller Tig welder the other day that originally came from the government aircraft factory here where they used to make Mirage fighter aircraft; so I have the right gear to do that now.)Can you identify what looks like a body builder's tag?Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I can't identify the tag, but maybe Al can put a loop on it. If it's a continuous-tone print, he may be able to read something. It's as big as a billboard. Some of the Fernandes et Darrin plates were quite big, but I was going to guess Labourdette on this car.I will bow to your thoughts on it not being a Minerva. You are obviously more versed in them than I. I just noticed a few Minerva-type features, such as the heavy-looking fenders and the hood latches (the latches look identical to some I saw on Minerva photos), and that it looks very similar to a couple of convertible victorias I found on an Internet search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Look what I found... Not the same car, but appears to be the same make. Wheels look the same, hood latches are identical, coachbuilder tag is in roughly the same place, fenders??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Interestingly, the Hispano has the exact same body as mounted on Steve Snyder's 1930 Packard 745. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I showed these photos to Steve Snyder, and he thinks Als car (photo) may have a Weymann body on it, which would explain the sculptless windows, simplicity of line, as well as the matte finish to the body, which looks like it could be doped fabric. Weymann also frequently used the windshield visor technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 I made a note to myself to bring the picture to work so I can scan it and blow up the plate on the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 Note that the wheels are 700x21 which means pre 1930 to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 I'm still going to guess Hispano Suiza. And the Weymann body suggestion is a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 I didn't put the zoom in of the driver, but it's clear the car is left hand drive. Also, the body is not canvas. The wheels do not have lock rings, so perhaps I was wrong about the pre-1930 dating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minerva Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 The car is no Minerva. The hood latches are identical to those used on 20 HP Minervas. They I have seen only have one latch. The hubs are identical to those on Minreva from 1919 - 1925. The wheels are typical 895*135 on Minerva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 The guys over at COACHBUILD.com - Home figured this out in 15 minutes. It's a 1930 Delage D8 with Million-Guiet body.COACHBUILD.com • View topic - Post any mystery car hereThis might even be the same car: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 If it is the same car, someone added that sidemount and "bumper" bar on the side. Different bumpers, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share Posted October 31, 2009 There are no provision for spares in the original photo. If you look at the details, door handle placement, louvers, window shape, drip edge, the cars look identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 The guys over at COACHBUILD.com - Home figured this out in 15 minutes. It's a 1930 Delage D8 with Million-Guiet body.COACHBUILD.com • View topic - Post any mystery car hereThis might even be the same car:All right, ignore that. Now they are saying it's a Hispano Suiza.COACHBUILD.com • View topic - Some Million-Guiet Hispano-Suiza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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