NorthEast ignition/coil repros

[West Peterson]

Tom Wilcox is looking for a correct coil for his 1930 733. Does anyone have any information regarding the repros that are available?

[34PackardRoadsta]

West,

Thanks for posting this here as well. I am never sure if I should double post .

Here is something I just found on ebay. What do you think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&item=320217229702

Tom

p.s. Great photo!

[West Peterson]

That's the one I see from time to time. Now that I have an original, I can see that the main visual difference is the ignition switch is smaller. It does not have the "On" and "Off" written on it.

Maybe Jeff (Restorer32) can give us some insight on this repop vs using an original????

[West Peterson]

I wonder what it means that the Atwater-Kent unit "will not interchange with Delco-Remy"? Since your distributor is Delco-Remy, does that mean it won't work????

[West Peterson]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 34PackardRoadsta</div><div class="ubbcode-body">West,

Thanks for posting this here as well. I am never sure if I should double post .

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I know what you mean. How dare we bring up Packard questions on this sight.

[34PackardRoadsta]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 34PackardRoadsta</div><div class="ubbcode-body">West,

Thanks for posting this here as well. I am never sure if I should double post .

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I know what you mean. How dare we bring up Packard questions on this sight. </div></div>

Hee hee. I just don't want to waste folks bandwidth with duplicates .

I asked the seller what they meant about not being compatible with Delco-Remy. We'll see what they say. The distributor on my car is the original North East. The Packard parts manual lists a Delco Remy replacement coil for all 7th-9th series. Perhaps one was to replace the distributor as well?

Thanks tons for the help.

Cheers,

Tom

[West Peterson]

I think, and I may be wrong, but the tag on your NorthEast distributor has the words "Delco-Remy" on the bottom of it.

[Restorer32]

The repro does not look very much like the original where it shows thru the dash. The original switch just sticks thru the dash from behind with no bezel so it is critical for appearance sake that the key slot and surround be the proper size. I'm sure the repro would work but why not just put a switch with bezel thru the hole and remotely mount the coil if originality is not a concern? I would think you could find an original for the same $250. I may even have one though I can't guarantee the coil is good.

[R W Burgess]

Reproduction

Original?

Wayne

[tbirdman]

I actually have an extra coil that I was planning to put on E-Bay sometime in the future. The coil has the key and the bezel.

The coils are being rebuilt by classic and exotic for ~$300.

[tbirdman]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Restorer32</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would think you could find an original for the same $250. I may even have one though I can't guarantee the coil is good. </div></div>

I saw a few original go on Ebay last year for $600.

[West Peterson]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tbirdman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I actually have an extra coil that I was planning to put on E-Bay sometime in the future. The coil has the key and the bezel.

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Bezel??? The original (for 1929-31) doesn't have a bezel. Is yours for a 1932? Is it the same as what I've pictured above, except a bezel is included?

[tbirdman]

Turns out I have two coils but only one with the key/bezel.

[West Peterson]

Ken, meet Tom. Now all you have to do is agree on price.

[West Peterson]

Ken

It's interesting the difference in finish between yours and mine. Yours has a brown wrinkle finish while mine is shiny black.

What does the decal say? Heavy Duty?

I'm curious... What does your key look like?

[Restorer32]

The originals I've seen have been gloss black. They also come in two lengths. The one for the 900 is the shorter version due to the limited space behind the dash. Not sure which length is correct for the other '32s but suspect it is the shorter version.

[34PackardRoadsta]

Ken,

I have sent you a pm re: coil.

Cheers,

Tom

[Guest imported_Speedster]

Tom,

I know I'll get Poo-Pooed by some of these originality Diehards around here, but have you considered getting a $15. coil and hanging it on inside of firewall and then get any $20. ignition-switch that looks good ? Very few people, that know the difference, look behind the dash anyway. As long as the coil and wires are neatly positioned, that's the Important thing.

I don't remember if you plan on having the car Judged at shows, but I think that's the only reason an expensive original type coil should be considered a necessity.

[34PackardRoadsta]

Rick,

Although I somewhat agree with you, I like to keep things original if only so that the next person doesn't have to guess what I did. Not really diehard, but if it is possible without losing the proverbial arm, I would like to do it.

Tom

[Guest imported_Speedster]

Yes, I can understand that side of it, It just seems Shameful to spend $500. for something that's not necessary.

I guess that's what happens when you 'Grow-up Poor'.

[West Peterson]

I only spent one-tenth that for mine.

I've been keeping my eyes out for one that's affordable, as, like you said, the car runs just fine without the original.

[Guest imported_Speedster]

The main problem with buying original types on eBay and at Swatmeets, is that 99% of the time you don't know if they are Good or Not, until they are tried in a car. Sure you can do continuity testing, but that sometimes doesn't tell you if they are going to arc and short-out when power is applied. They are really a Gamble. Used ones were Removed for Some Reason.

So the expensive Repops are the only ones that come with a garrantee.

[tbirdman]

I only use my coil as a switch today and a generic 6V coil on the firewall. However since I have got Classic and Exotic to rebuild an extra coil, I plan to replace my dead coil with the one they rebuilt. As you know I like originality.

The coils I have would not be guaranteed. I would get them rebuilt. I know one is dead...actually not quite but almost dead, as once warmed up, it will necessitate you to call a tow truck. Took me two weekends and three tows to figure it out.

[West Peterson]

Exactly why I kept searching for one that was only $50. What do I have to lose?

[West Peterson]

Ken

What does Brian charge to rebuild?

[34PackardRoadsta]

I would definitely like to at least get the coil with the switch, even if the coil is dead. I can hide a generic coil behind the dash. If I can find a rebuilder that is reasonable, I will go that route.

Thanks all for your help. I will let you know if a new coil solves my 'lack of energy' problem.

Cheers,

Tom

[Guest imported_Speedster]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Exactly why I kept searching for one that was only $50. What do I have to lose? </div></div>

You could Loose $50. plus a lot of time and effort. LOL

[West Peterson]

Well, the correct switch is worth $50, especially on a car worth a half-million.

[Guest imported_Speedster]

Yes, I keep Forgeting the 'Investment Value'.

[West Peterson]

... Plus, the "time and effort" is the fun part! You have to agree with me on that, or you wouldn't be building that coupe of yours.

[Guest imported_Speedster]

Yes, But one thing that is NOT Fun, is getting Ripped-off when paying Good money for Bad parts.

[West Peterson]

You win some, you lose some. The fun is in winning more than losing, and not dwelling on the losing part. I guess if I got in the habit of losing too much, I'd stop.

[Guest imported_Speedster]

My problem is that I Hate Loosing money, even More than Spending it. LOL

[West Peterson]

Well, I guess that is a problem then.

[tbirdman]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ken

What does Brian charge to rebuild? </div></div>

~$300. Nothingthey do is cheap.

[Guest imported_Speedster]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tbirdman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ken

What does Brian charge to rebuild? </div></div>

~$300. Nothingthey do is cheap. </div></div>

Who and Where is Brian? Is he at Classic & Exotic ?

I was wondering if we should put them in the Xref thread ???

Do they Only rebuild, or do they have some for sale also ?

[tbirdman]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedster</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tbirdman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ken

What does Brian charge to rebuild? </div></div>

~$300. Nothingthey do is cheap. </div></div>

Who and Where is Brian? Is he at Classic & Exotic ?

I was wondering if we should put them in the Xref thread ???

Do they Only rebuild, or do they have some for sale also ? </div></div>

I don't know, but Classic and Exotic just rebuild as far as I know.

[Guest 1956Packard]

I think Brian is from Classic & Exotic.

However, I can't be sure though as after 3 un-returned telephone calls I never was able to speak with anyone other than the girl answering the phone.

I gave up. Apparently they didn't need my business.

Geoff

[tbirdman]

Never had trouble with them, but have had issues with other vendors that never return a call. Yep they must have too much money selling these expensive Packard parts.